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Old 04-05-2008, 08:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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4 days weight training

Until my rugby season starts again i can go to the gym
mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays, thursdays, fridays, saturdays.

If i were to decide to train 4 times a week. What workouts could be done but not having set days.For example
week 1 - monday, wed, fri, sat
week 2 - monday, tues, thurs, sat

etc ?

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Re: 4 days weight training

upper
lower
rest day
rinse and repeat
rest day

OR

chest/shoulders
back/traps
off
off
legs
arms
off

OR

horizontal
lower quad dominant
off
off
verticle
lower hip/hamstring dominant
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Re: 4 days weight training

Mon - back/bi's
Wed - shoulders
Thurs - legs
Sat - chest/tri

Or 3 day

Mon - push

wed - pull

sat - legs
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 4 days weight training

Would it not be better to do something like
monday - back
wed - arms
friday - legs and shoulders
sat chest

back and chest on there own because theyre a big muscle group ?

Whats the workout where people do chest and bis ?
and each muscle group is done twice in a week ?
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Re: 4 days weight training

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Would it not be better to do something like
monday - back
wed - arms
friday - legs and shoulders
sat chest

?
nope

triceps and assisting delts take a tw4tting the day before chest?

Quote:
back and chest on there own because theyre a big muscle group ?
again not universally, many ways to train chest and back together with upper and lower splits as well as the horizontal and verticle split

Quote:
Whats the workout where people do chest and bis ?
and each muscle group is done twice in a week
million and one ways to do that but 3 day would be

chest and bi
off
back and tri
off
legs and shoulders
off
off

for example

Throw away the rule book on what you have read and embrace alternative methods

all manner in ways to train
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 4 days weight training

Ok. Here the question.

Would my strength benefit more in a month by doing

OR
chest and bi
off
back and tri
off
legs and shoulders
off
off

Mon - back/bi's
Wed - shoulders
Thurs - legs
Sat - chest/tri

OR
chest and tris
back and bis
shoulder and legs
THen on the last day start cycycle again so chest and tris 2 x in week 1 ?

Ino its all down to me training etc but which is more proven ?
Novice questions but got to learn somewhere.
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Re: 4 days weight training

If you are strength training ideally you should not even bother doing isolation sh1te

3 days of FBRs or a 3 day split

OR

upper
lower
off
upper
lower
off
off

all with compounds in a low rep range

what you outline above is a simple 3 day split to include isolation work and can be done anyway round but not ideal for strength training

your strength work should simply revolve around the big movements and they can be hammered 3 times a week on full body routines, nice low reps and some explosive work to boot
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 4 days weight training

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Until my rugby season starts again i can go to the gym
mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays, thursdays, fridays, saturdays.

If i were to decide to train 4 times a week. What workouts could be done but not having set days.For example
week 1 - monday, wed, fri, sat
week 2 - monday, tues, thurs, sat

etc ?

thanks. Im looking for strength and size
No need to train 4 times a week amigo. You won't benefit from it.

Twice weekly on a Push/Pull split. Or 3 times per week.

Theres an example 3 day split in the link on my siggy.

Your playing rugby right? So why waste a day on arms?
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Re: 4 days weight training

I personally do this:

Monday - Back/bi's
Wednesday - Chest and tris
Friday - Legs
Sunday - Shoudlers and tris

3 or 4 Compound movements per day. That's about 20 -25 mins weight training each time. Keep it simple and put similar groups together. I.e. do chin ups which hit both back and bi's, so do them on the same day. Triceps are hit by bench and military press.

Easy as. Dont over complicate things. Find a routine that works for you and do that for 2 months, then change up a bit.
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I personally do this:

Monday - Back/bi's
Wednesday - Chest and tris
Friday - Legs
Sunday - Shoudlers and tris

3 or 4 Compound movements per day. That's about 20 -25 mins weight training each time. Keep it simple and put similar groups together. I.e. do chin ups which hit both back and bi's, so do them on the same day. Triceps are hit by bench and military press.

Easy as. Dont over complicate things. Find a routine that works for you and do that for 2 months, then change up a bit.
Tri's twice per week....?
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I personally do this:

Monday - Back/bi's
Wednesday - Chest and tris
Friday - Legs
Sunday - Shoudlers and tris

3 or 4 Compound movements per day. That's about 20 -25 mins weight training each time. Keep it simple and put similar groups together. I.e. do chin ups which hit both back and bi's, so do them on the same day. Triceps are hit by bench and military press.

Easy as. Dont over complicate things. Find a routine that works for you and do that for 2 months, then change up a bit.
But that will serve minimal purpose for rugby strength and explosive power training.
Bodybuilding training differs significantly
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Re: 4 days weight training

I understand about my workout should include compound movements and power movements.

Maybe ?
monday - chest n tris
wednesday - back and bis
thurs or fri - legs and shoulders
fri or sat etc - focus on power ?
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Show me a:

Movement
rep range
tempo

For power and compounds on biceps alone?
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Re: 4 days weight training

There isnt a compound movement which just does the biceps as that would be an isolation.
Deads and rows do the biceps. That is what i mean. In my training journal i have my workout posted.
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you dont need to isolate biceps for rugby

if you want to post your plan here for help, fire away but i doubt many will root through your journal to find it my friend

Google rugby training plans and you will end up with:

2 day full body routines
plyometrics/explosive/strength

laced with

SAQ/drills/base endurance

You will not find a 3 day bodybuilding split
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