irwit

I practice dips in the kitchen in the corners of the worktops. Doing a set or 2 every day really helped me out but because my weight keeps going up Im still only lifting bodyweight.

Lost Soul

Is that to build chest and triceps?

OR

To get better at dips in your kitchen and then the gym?

bronson

cheers buddy, post your diet up and your workout and any supps and gear that you are probably using. would love to see it

Lost Soul

It would serve no purpose as it simply does what i need it to do and there is no diet

i dont count cals, dont weigh anything, dont have timings, etc

no supplement is going to work, simply do cardio, place carbs around training and ensure you are in a calorie deficit.

at 20% BF you will not lose strength cutting

cellaratt

This is solid advise....there is alot of stabalizer muscles invovled with dips and the only way to get better is to do them...even if you can only get one unnassisted now, after practicing this technique you will get better...

bronson

again, i'll ask, you are gaining strength on a calorie deficit, what are your ratios like?

With all due respect, I have posted my stats in my siggie with nothing to hide, I also posted in the 'getting started' forum which is far from the truth. I started lifting at 17, overweight, and I have turned 15.5stone into a dense, trim 15.5 stone.

Please, instead of slating, point me in the right direction, I believe my diet is in check, and I think the only thing missing for 'weight loss' is cardio.

hertderg

Advice has already been given here-
no supplement is going to work, simply do cardio, place carbs around training and ensure you are in a calorie deficit.

It's not rocket science mate.

Lost Soul

There are no ratios my friend, no information as i dont diet, im not strict and i eat what and when i want..
I have though told you to target your carb intake around training which makes your next bit look very very silly and worthy of me aborting any help, but i wont as thats not in my nature

See how silly that post looks and potentially quite offensive?

next bit

Well the answer is there, if you are experienced you will know your body and what it can do. let me assure you though every man on this planet can get to 10% BF without hassle and a little reading.
Reading along the lines of what i have given you

IM not sure if you want me to spoon feed you and ecatly what info on my diet you want to use, simply heed the advice given and research the timing of carbs so you dont lose strength

I walked away from many forums as a result of people throwing sh1t back in your face after you try and help them and this is another prime example

hackskii

Havnt read the whole post, but for dips with bodyweight, it is only numbers for those that are starting out.
I used to do like reps in the 40's range, but my bodyweight was light.
Dips are awesome and if you add some reps each weak you are doing totally awesome.

Ecksarmy11

Appreciate that you don't need to do these, but they are a very good exercise for building chest and triceps. Always one that I would recommend to anyone along with all compounds.

bronson

ok apologies.

more cardio. more dips.
'target carb intake around training'

hackskii

I for one believe in ratios, no offence LS but as an older man I do notice the manipulation effects of this, over regular eating, for let’s say others that don’t understand this concept.

For one, macro ratios influence blood sugar levels and also the glycemic load of that meal.
Manipulating macros offer the benefits of sustained blood sugar levels, as well as spiking of blood sugars, which in turn spike insulin. Spiking insulin is not favorable in the whole fat loss scheme of things as insulin is a storage hormone. Not only that but excess insulin over time can make one insulin resistant and this condition is one we seriously need to avoid, type II diabetes comes to mind here.

I will go as far to say that avoiding the macro ratios to those that don’t understand them and abuse them will have less benefits in fat loss as those whom adhere to them. Much of this response again is due to insulin.

Suggesting that it makes no difference of macros could short change one in dieting and I will explain why here.

All numbers aside, if one were to live on sugar for their sole purpose of carbohydrate consumption, person in question would be more insulin resistant than the other person that lets say ate apples oats, and broccoli, as their carbohydrate sources of fuel.

Macros mean a lot, for instance, 35 grams of fiber offer 250 calories burned for digestion of said meal, and offer better insulin sensitivity and also lowering cholesterol along with better waste elimination (detox), lowering of LDL’s (bad cholesterol), etc.
Or the thermic effect of protein. Calorie for calorie eating protein has less calories stored than let’s say sugar, simply due to the digestion of said macro………….See how not every macro is created equal?

I do agree with you lost soul to a certain degree but to another degree I do not agree and can elaborate upon request. Saying macros don’t mean anything and a calorie deficit is all that is needed is somewhat correct, but is flawed by virtue. It does make a difference and the difference to many young lads is winning and losing a competition for body building.

1 gallon of ice water burns an additional 150 calories.
That and the added fiber could in fact help those are having a harder time dieting……..Both of those are Macro’s by definition………
Ratio's are something, and do have an influence actually.

Lost Soul

Im fully aware of ow macros work and the benefitsn of including certain food groups but if your TDEE fluctuates anywhere fro 3000 to 6000 kcals ED where do you start with ratios, especially when you can have 2 x 6000 days in a row and not see another for a week and some weeks all 4000 outputs

I live by the rules:

Steady intake without hindering my work
quality nutrients, macro and micro
adeqaute H2O

beyond that its not worth me even reaching for an excel spreadhseet as it serves no purpose as every day can be different and can even differ during a day

hackskii

I was only commenting on the ratio comment, there are many applications for it and it does not apply to all.
About 1/3 of the population in the US is carb sensitive, if this is the case, the the ratio's would be used and used with decent success.
About 1/3 of the population in the US has no problems with over consumption of carbohydrates, so these types the ratio's would not be of value.

Diffrent body types ecto, meso, etc, all need to consider how diet influences body composition.

Not even just ratio's of macros but also the selection of food sources for each macro.
When I had my diet nailed, I lost no strenght and was super lean. I did it with paying very strict attention to timing of eating, food macros, and in the end I had to ditch the diet because it was like I was eating all the time, the metabolism was screaming.

Some people crave carbs, over eating them causes a spike in blood sugar, then insulin gets involved due to the spiking of blood sugars, stores that, then the brain calls out for food and they end up craving carbs again.
Adding a fat, and or a fiber slows down the spiking of blood sugar, offering more stable blood sugars and less cravings and binging occurs.

I think ratios of macros is very important.
I dont buy the calorie in vs the calorie out, I know it has merrit, but just like the glycemic index it is flawed.
As I age I cant eat what I used to, hell not even half, I have to pay attention to what I eat.
I also have a sitdown job at work, this works against me.

I was just commenting on your comment that ratios dont work or need not be addressed, I was giving my perspective side of this.