GSleigh

O.k so lets assume that some one is... 14stone.
They are an average stack at 18% body fat.
They have a good solid cardio routine and weights routine and eat the right kind of food for a mass stack diet.

What is a realistic muscle game? 1lb a month? or more? we are talking lean muscle across the body? Because i see some people seem to go from nothing to everything in under a year or two.. and i try to work it out and it seems like lbs a week.. BUT that just doesnt seem possible for the body to build muscle that quickly.

I feel im quiet slow at the moment and wouldnt mind gauging where i should be and how much a good gain shoul dbe?

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Bulldozer

How long is a piece of string ??

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GSleigh

The one in my draw is 17" why? ;) ;)

There mmust be a maximum without taking steroids?

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gym rat

depends on training and diet mate, you could train hard as fook and not get any results if diets not right

GSleigh

Well thats what i am saying. In this situation lets assume all factors are correct and balanced

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gym rat

in that case genetics would also play a part... to be honest mate it is quite hard to tell,

Bulldozer

There are just sooooooo many variables.

Genetics being a HUGE one.

I would say a "begginer" bodybuilder, with a good coach who can instruct him on a good diet and routine could gain 15 to 20 lbs of muscle in his first year if he had average to above average genetics. And was highly motivated.

Thats a begginer, the longer you have been training the slower the gains.

Buts its just a ball park!

I will tell you one thing tho, dont get disheartened when you see anybody telling you that they gained 20 lbs of muscle in 3 months, weather they are an AAS user or not. Because its rather bullsh!t or they are deluded.

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GSleigh

To be honest with some things people said recently and gains that i read about in mags and stuff it doesnt knock your confidence. The amount of things i read saying gaining 15-20lbs of lean muscle in a 14 week cycle and stuff...

Im thinking.. holy crap i aint put that much on in a 52 week cycle. :(

I guess 1lb a month is a good target and if possible anything more would be a bonus?

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Jaybo

Im also a begginer bodybuilder...hi im john by the way...

this subjects interests me coz i was wonderin the same thing...

and i was 13 stone about 6 months ago n a "bit" of a fatty...id dabbled at weights bfore but got nowhere really...ive gone form working out 2 times a week, to 3, to 5 and now finally every day, isolating different groups each day..and although i dont look massively different, my body shape has changed & ive only been at it (every day) for about a month now, and im just over 14 stone, with less body fat than when i started 6 months ago...

i take it this is good gain?? john

Captain Hero

Have had one of these threads before and the result was that gains of 1/2 lb per week were totally possible naturally if adequate diet/training/supps were in place

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TH&S

Lol. I assume thats not muscle tissue Mr Male Animal...?

26lbs per year, year after year, naturally...? I wish!

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D: 220 | B: 110 | S: 170 | Target: 550

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I reckon 1lb per month, maximum unless you're genetically gifted.

I reckon that most people would be lucky to achieve 1lb though. Maybe 8lbs a year?

TH&S

Don't get me wrong - you could gain more LBM that per year, but even AAS users are going to struggle to put on more than 14lbs of dry muscle per year.

If you can reset your hormone levels you could re-start some of your newbie gains, but you're not going to be able to do that year on year.

About 8lbs of dry muscle per year would be ideal. But odds are you are going to gain water and fat and loose some muscle when you diet down.

Its tough this iron game I tells ya

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d@n

lean gains maybe 2-3lb a year and on a proper bulk with a large cal surpus maybe 4-5lb of muscle and probably 20lb of fat unless you have very good or bad genes for gaining muscle.

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