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Old 21-01-2008, 10:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

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Ive been tracking my weight on both the scales and the barbell since xmas but have been tracking my weights on the barbell since about november.

Im going for the add a little a week and have upped my bench from around 60k to 77.5k and squat from a similar 60k to 80k. These are all for 3 sets of 10 GOOD reps. Im not after increasing the weight and doing half reps.

Anyway my weight on the scales isnt going aswell. Although to be honest Ive only been measuring for the last 3 weeks. I weigh myself every monday morning and its gone 12.2 12.0 and 12.0.

Routine is a 3 day split, leg push and pull, compound movements but no deadlift as Im 6.1 and dont want to start without getting a pro in to show proper technique.

Im also doing fair ammount of cardio. I run a 10k once a week in about 50 mins and 50 lengths in the pool none stop once a week.

Eating Breaky : 8am 4 poached eggs 2 brown toast

11am 2 oatabix 1 scoop egg white 1 scoop whey in water

1pm meat, carbs, vege

4pm chicken fajita or 11am shake

6-7pm meat, carbs vege

Train at 8:30- 9:00 for about 45mins to an hour

10:30 chicken cottage cheese or calcium casein shake

What do you guys think? DO I need to up the food to start adding pounds on the scales or stick with this and see if it starts to pick up longer term, basically am I being impatient ?

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Old 21-01-2008, 10:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

If you are getting stronger but not putting weight on - eat more calories, mainly from protein and good fats.

The amount of cardio you are doing is great but its probably having an adverse effect on your weight gaining attempts. You could try reducing it a bit, if its not your priority.
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Old 21-01-2008, 10:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

The bar IMO, body weight can fluctuate quite a bit, but as long as you are getting stronger then you are going in the right direction.
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Old 21-01-2008, 11:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

I've no interest in competing, so the scales are fairly insignificant to me, however I do check my weight now again out of curiosity.

What really matters to me is how I look in the mirror & what is going on the bar.
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Old 21-01-2008, 05:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

Yeah I think cardio isabit excessive but I wanted to improve cardio to hopefully benifit the weights and also to keep an eye on the bf but I guess its on or the other really. Asking alot to get both.
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

if the weight on the bar is goin up and not your bodyweight, your either not eating enough or overtraining, i found this a few years ago, i got stronger but barely put on any weight or size and when i took a week or so off the weights , i started putting on the poundage,
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Old 22-01-2008, 10:27 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

I think I might take Gymrats advice, calm down the the cardio over the next few weeks and increase the food, then if it still wont go up maybe go to a 2 day split.

Cheers for the replies guys, much apprechiated !
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Re: Whats more important : weight increase on the scales or the barbell ?

IMO the bar is more important but I prefer to use the mirror against the scales.

As said you dont want to be over training as this will hinder recovery which in turn will hinder growth but check the mirror as some time this will change for the better and the scales may stay around the same:)
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The bar IMO, body weight can fluctuate quite a bit, but as long as you are getting stronger then you are going in the right direction.
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