Well this is annoying/embarassing! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

ostego · 16-11-2007, 07:23 PM

heya.

Been doing the following schedule (just started this week)

Monday: 5 x 5 :
Squats
Benching
Rows

Wednesday: 5 x 5 :
Squats -
Military -
Deadlifts
chins

Friday: 5 x 5 (increasing) :
Squats
Benching
Rows

have a problem with the squats.

I can feel i can do soo much more! And don't feel it's pressing me at all, however, i can't seem to lift more than 50kg up over my head and rest the barbell on my shoulders, so the max i can squat is currently dead at an embarassing 50kg! I don't know why! I can bench more than this, and so on, but for some reason, i can't lift a barbell over 50kg over my head and rest between my shoulder to do squats!

I also can only do around 40KG on military lifts/presses (not too sure what theyre called) and i'm guessing you use the same muscles for these exercises (e.g. lifting the barbell behind your head would be the same as getting the barbell behind your head for military presses/lifts - not too sure which one it is!)

Could someone give me some advice on this. What muscles are used for doing that kind of thing, and how can i work on them (as i seriously need to!!)

For the mean time, is there any other way to load the barbell onto my shoulders as opposed to lifting it from the rack and then hoisting it over my head? Or is there any other kind of squat that doesn't involve having the barbell on your back?

Sorry about this! But i'm stumped! Maybe this is punishment for being keen on fitness, but also a keen video gamer, a lethal mix.

Con · 16-11-2007, 07:29 PM

Hmm whats the video games got to do with any thing?
Any ways join a better gym once you want to get serious or you can play around with exercises like deadlifts where you grip the bar from behind so your in front of the bar or sumo deadlifts.

Or even better squat that 50kg 100 times ATG and once thats mastered go for 100 reps of front squats lol.

squat_this · 16-11-2007, 07:45 PM

Go to a gym with a squat rack

Five-O · 16-11-2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squat_this

Go to a gym with a squat rack

lol...i was thinking that, by the time you've lifted all the weight up and over you'll be fvcked up.

ah24 · 16-11-2007, 08:40 PM

Havent read the whole post but from the replies looks like you dont have no squat rack...

At the gym that i work at (not train at) i try not to train there for 3 reasons, 1) im unsociable when i train and hate being grabbed during a workout to show new exercises or give someone info....2) after a 8 or 12hr shift i dont wanna be in the building any longer...lastly the one that applies here...

No benches with hooks or squat rack or even a smith machine!!!! Its fkin disgusting, p1sses me off big time - though the simple way around it (shouldnt bloody have to though) is get 3 guys t lift the weight for me into position then wait and take it off

Its hassle but gets the job done.....

Sorry for going off on a tangent but i had to get that off my chest

Five-O · 16-11-2007, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah24

Havent read the whole post but from the replies looks like you dont have no squat rack...

At the gym that i work at (not train at) i try not to train there for 3 reasons, 1) im unsociable when i train and hate being grabbed during a workout to show new exercises or give someone info....2) after a 8 or 12hr shift i dont wanna be in the building any longer...lastly the one that applies here...

No benches with hooks or squat rack or even a smith machine!!!! Its fkin disgusting, p1sses me off big time - though the simple way around it (shouldnt bloody have to though) is get 3 guys t lift the weight for me into position then wait and take it off

Its hassle but gets the job done.....

Sorry for going off on a tangent but i had to get that off my chest

I can see why you'd wanna train elsewhere mate....lol

TaintedSoul · 18-11-2007, 09:56 AM

On the other hand think of it a killer compound exercise. If you squating 100kg's or more who knows how the rest of your body will develop getting that bar onto your shoulders!!

Squat rack, smith machine maybe otherwise play it safe on leg press although not as good and I shouldnt preach as I'm lazy and do more leg press than squats!!

ONE SMART COOKIE · 18-11-2007, 09:58 AM

Learn to do a Steinborn lift

justdiscovering · 18-11-2007, 10:13 AM

may as well be me, whats a steinbourn lift cookie?

justdiscovering · 18-11-2007, 10:16 AM

googled it wow!! cookie talk about obscure what a way to squat .....sorry for hijacking.

ONE SMART COOKIE · 18-11-2007, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justdiscovering

googled it wow!! cookie talk about obscure what a way to squat .....sorry for hijacking.

Twas the original way to do heavy squats as previosuly people could only do light squats raised onto their toes..

Heres cookie having a go at them

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YtRePjpPkVo

TaintedSoul · 18-11-2007, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKIE

Twas the original way to do heavy squats as previosuly people could only do light squats raised onto their toes..

Heres cookie having a go at them

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YtRePjpPkVo

There's old Cookie playing with his log again. Saw your clip of you cart wheeling your log around the place.

ParaManiac · 18-11-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKIE

Twas the original way to do heavy squats as previosuly people could only do light squats raised onto their toes..

Heres cookie having a go at them

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YtRePjpPkVo

Fooking tree hugger

ONE SMART COOKIE · 19-11-2007, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaintedSoul

There's old Cookie playing with his log again. Saw your clip of you cart wheeling your log around the place.

Its amazing what you can find to train with if you just have a good look round...:lift:

ONE SMART COOKIE · 19-11-2007, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PARAMANIAC

Fooking tree hugger

I wouldn`t have it any other way:crazy:

16-11-2007, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
ostego Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 22	Well this is annoying/embarassing! heya. Been doing the following schedule (just started this week) Monday: 5 x 5 : Squats Benching Rows Wednesday: 5 x 5 : Squats - Military - Deadlifts chins Friday: 5 x 5 (increasing) : Squats Benching Rows have a problem with the squats. I can feel i can do soo much more! And don't feel it's pressing me at all, however, i can't seem to lift more than 50kg up over my head and rest the barbell on my shoulders, so the max i can squat is currently dead at an embarassing 50kg! I don't know why! I can bench more than this, and so on, but for some reason, i can't lift a barbell over 50kg over my head and rest between my shoulder to do squats! I also can only do around 40KG on military lifts/presses (not too sure what theyre called) and i'm guessing you use the same muscles for these exercises (e.g. lifting the barbell behind your head would be the same as getting the barbell behind your head for military presses/lifts - not too sure which one it is!) Could someone give me some advice on this. What muscles are used for doing that kind of thing, and how can i work on them (as i seriously need to!!) For the mean time, is there any other way to load the barbell onto my shoulders as opposed to lifting it from the rack and then hoisting it over my head? Or is there any other kind of squat that doesn't involve having the barbell on your back? Sorry about this! But i'm stumped! Maybe this is punishment for being keen on fitness, but also a keen video gamer, a lethal mix. __________________ HOW did i managed to de my hair orange!

16-11-2007, 07:29 PM	#2 (permalink)
Con ;-) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,484	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! Hmm whats the video games got to do with any thing? Any ways join a better gym once you want to get serious or you can play around with exercises like deadlifts where you grip the bar from behind so your in front of the bar or sumo deadlifts. Or even better squat that 50kg 100 times ATG and once thats mastered go for 100 reps of front squats lol.

16-11-2007, 07:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
squat_this The legend that is LBND!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 1,385	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! Go to a gym with a squat rack __________________ Welcome to this thing of ours...a.k.a the UK-Muscle Mafioso Wasps - Premiership Champions '02-'03, '03-'04, '04-'05, '07-'08 Heineken Cup Winners - 2004, 2007

16-11-2007, 08:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,761	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! Havent read the whole post but from the replies looks like you dont have no squat rack... At the gym that i work at (not train at) i try not to train there for 3 reasons, 1) im unsociable when i train and hate being grabbed during a workout to show new exercises or give someone info....2) after a 8 or 12hr shift i dont wanna be in the building any longer...lastly the one that applies here... No benches with hooks or squat rack or even a smith machine!!!! Its fkin disgusting, p1sses me off big time - though the simple way around it (shouldnt bloody have to though) is get 3 guys t lift the weight for me into position then wait and take it off Its hassle but gets the job done..... Sorry for going off on a tangent but i had to get that off my chest

18-11-2007, 09:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
TaintedSoul The resident dirty Saffir! Join Date: May 2007 Location: 69 Axe wound mile Posts: 3,693	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! On the other hand think of it a killer compound exercise. If you squating 100kg's or more who knows how the rest of your body will develop getting that bar onto your shoulders!! Squat rack, smith machine maybe otherwise play it safe on leg press although not as good and I shouldnt preach as I'm lazy and do more leg press than squats!! __________________ _________________________________________________ There's those that do, and those that don't, Those that will, and those that won't, Those that can, and those that can't. ..... Dont be a loser!! .... Last edited by TaintedSoul; 18-11-2007 at 09:59 AM.

18-11-2007, 09:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
ONE SMART COOKIE Decided to leave due to idiots & and their over inflated egos Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,018	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! Learn to do a Steinborn lift Last edited by ONE SMART COOKIE; 18-11-2007 at 10:22 AM.

18-11-2007, 10:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
justdiscovering if I can't be unfit in heaven.I'l definately be fit in hell Join Date: May 2007 Location: stourbridge west mids Posts: 599	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! may as well be me, whats a steinbourn lift cookie?

18-11-2007, 10:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
justdiscovering if I can't be unfit in heaven.I'l definately be fit in hell Join Date: May 2007 Location: stourbridge west mids Posts: 599	Re: Well this is annoying/embarassing! googled it wow!! cookie talk about obscure what a way to squat .....sorry for hijacking.