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Arms?
Do you really need to train arms?

I read on another thread that if you lift with the main movements (deadlift, sqauts, Bench, etc) your arms will get enough of a workout.
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Re: Arms?
I pretty much only train big compound moves. I rarely train arms specifically but my arms are continuing to grow

I think it's very easy to overtrain arms by working them specifically.
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Re: Arms?
I would say - not really.

Triceps get worked when training chest/delts

Biceps similar when training back

However,a couple of sets at the end of the relevant workout are useful.
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Re: Arms?
when people say they only train with the big compounds what type of splits are used?
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Do you really need to train arms?

I read on another thread that if you lift with the main movements (deadlift, sqauts, Bench, etc) your arms will get enough of a workout.
IMO you only need train arms once your an intermediate/advanced trainer.

I have put an inch and a half on my arms in the last year and have done no direct arm work at all.

Bi's get plenty of work from chins/rows

Tri's plenty from bench/overhead press's

And of course they grow from the all over anabolic effect of squats and deads.


Others will say different no doubt, but thats my take on it.
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when people say they only train with the big compounds what type of splits are used?
I havent ever done an isolation exercise hardly

Something like,

Squats
bench
rows

Deads
ohp
chins.


Just a quick example

Edit: When you train with compounds only you dont really train a split as such, you train lifts. Thats how i look at it anyway
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Re: Arms?
I would say it was very person specific. Many people will say isolation movements for arms are a waste but I react well to them.

Arms are actually trained twice per week for me after my big lifts. I think it makes sense to train the smaller assisting muscles if you aim to increase your heavy compounds. My arms react best to heavy curls and close grip BP, size and strength wise.
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Re: Arms?
i like to do at least two isolation exercises,...(two bi's and two for tri's)

even if its just to feel a pump,....

i agree the main compound exercises are providing gains,....

but if timed properly during your "week" an isolation is an advantage too.....
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I would say it was very person specific.
^^^^ Correct.

Genetics, lifestyle and age will play a huge part in this.

Par example I have a friend who used to be an amateur boxer - he's basically arms and lats. No chest to speak of and I bet he would struggle squatting 150lbs.

He trains arms thrice weekly in addition to his sparring, and he's had good growth arm. He also is a student and only works part time close to home.

Annoying isn't it? :gun:
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Re: Arms?
I'd say it depends what level you want to get to. If you want a good physique then no. If you want an awesome physique, and want to be as good as you can be then yes you do need to train arms.
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