welsh_ryan

well for the next month and a bit i'll be workout around 9,30-10 as i work 2 till 10 most nights

was just wondering shall i try to keep my food in the monring lightish nuthing to heavey then have a nice meal around hr after my workout around 11-12

so plan is

wms + whey + creatine around 20-30 mins before work out
drink bcaa thro workout in water be traing for 45mins max
stright after whey + bcaa + creatine then food 30-60mins after takeing shake after workout

will have some fruit before workout as well 1 bannans 1 apple

will be eating at these times

wake up 7-8am then work out 2 hrs later
then workout 10
eat 11
eat eat 1-1.30
then then eat 4 due to work
then eat 6
eat 8 eat 10 then bed
and do it all agine

any thoughts on this

is 1 meal before worout fine

leeston

if you have two hours before training I would get up and have a large bowl of oats with boiling water and a whey shake.

I, and many others on here, train early. I train at 07.15'ish and get up about 6 and have the above meal every day.

ParaManiac

This would be my choice.

Then have your creatine and amino's about 30mins pre training.

ParaManiac

or as you have stated sip your amino's during workout,whatever your preference.

welsh_ryan

ya i'll be havin breky before i work out but within a hr and half of havin that i will be heading off to the gym will be having my meal needs when i wake up so will get what i need then and then work out

but becouse i'll wake up at 7-8 then eat nice breaky i'll be taking whay ect before workout will this be oright as iv just had a nice breky ?
wont over do the protein carbs ect will i ??? or will that be ok coz i'll be working out and my body will soke it all up

ParaManiac

Dont overcomplicate it.

The porridge(approx 100g oats)and a fruit source along with a shake 90 - 120 mins before training will suffice.

Amino's as above.

welsh_ryan

thanks am starting next week properly see and everything is in place now time to break them muscles up and leave them grow bigger thanks boys

u2mr2

I train in the morning. I get up at 7.30am and have oats with milk, a piece of fruit and a protein shake. Then I hit the gym at 9am.

Sometimes thought I find that I can't stomach a lot to eat on a morning and it makes me feel dead ill, sometimes making me wretch and throw up what I have eaten.

welsh_ryan

ya i',m trying not to feel like that see when i do work out so i'll keep it as small as possable with my meal needs in it and i should be ok

leeston

I fnd that I can eat any sized bowl of oats in the morning. However, if you do this Welsh Ryan dont add milk. I found that adding milk left me bloated and ready to heave when training.

Not sure of your stats but I have 50g of oats in boiling water, 40g of whey (about one and a half regular scoops).

welsh_ryan

well for breakfast i'll be having a drink with oats grounded basicaly becouse i dont feel like eating when i wake up never have iv got this planed for braky

in semi skimmed milk
1 cup of milk
1 piece of fruit bananas cal 92g protein 1 carb 23
1 scoop of whey protein ( or 2) 48g protein cal 240g
maybe a lil container of yogurt ( to thicken it up)
50g of oats cal 227g protein 5g carbs 33g

is a lot of cals in that meal but may drop the oats slighly to 30g or take 1 scoop of way out will take the 1 scoop of whey out i think

roughly i may try it in milk for first day as milk i havent got a prob with it drink about 4 pints a day atm have done for ages just rather milk to drinkin coke or **** all the time

this drink will be easy to get down and quick plus its got everything i need for nutrion

welsh_ryan

also shall i forget about the whey before workout becouse i'm having a good protein in my breky just have whey after my workout next and just have some wms before my work out with apple and creatine

leeston

dude, I would be spewing after that. Keep it simple, I personnaly would drop the milk and yog. What about your vits?

What are your goals.

What is your carbs/pro/fats requirement?

How many cals are you aiming for?

So you say you will be having this followed by wms, an apple and creatine? Fooking hell mate how will you train with all that in side you?

Oats and whey before training for energy and fast acting pro. Immediately after training, that is the important part - make sure you get the good food/supps in then.

Followed again an hour or two later with a good meal rich in complex carbs, protein and fats.

welsh_ryan

that meal is this

40-50g protein
559g cals
56g carbs

bulk diet
daily goals are
250-300 protein
3400 cals
320 carbs
and 60-80g fat
i'm 188lbs atm lookin to bulk

ya i done that diet before i knew id train in the morning see

if i just stuck to
oats
shake
and fruit

that be oright still give me the same sort of vaules

chrisj22

'Welsh Ryan'; I train at 6am & I have 50-60g oats & 2 scoops of whey for my breakfast (both made with water).

Keep it simple.

Don't have WMS before weights, save that for after. Add some raisens to your oats if you want (or any type of fruit).