how is my new workout all coments apreciated - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:02 PM

Mon-CHEST/TRICEPS

crossovers,db flyes,incline decline press,bench press
kick backs,skull crushers,cable pushdowns,overhead extensions

Tue-CARDIO/ABS

30 mins hiit cardio before breakie
4/5 diff abs

Wed-BACK/BICEPS

bent over rows,pulldowns wide grip
21s,hammer curls,preacher curls

Thur-SHOULDERS/LEGS

shrugs,upright row,front/side delt raise,db press,reverse flyes
deadlifts,curls,extensions,squats,

Fri-CARDIO/ABS

30mins hiit cardio before breakie
4/5 diff abs

sat/sun off

how does this workout look for a heavy/fat guy wanting fat loss and muscle gains

please comment

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:03 PM

all 4 sets that includes warm up set 8/12 reps or to failure

**big** · 01-07-2007, 10:08 PM

If you are saying you plan on doing 4 exercises and for each doing 1 warm-up followed by 3 sets to failure, I predict overtraining and not much in the way of growth.

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:15 PM

whats best thing to do then

**big** · 01-07-2007, 10:19 PM

Either don't go to failure on every set, or do less sets. And drop the isolation stuff.

Ideally you should be picking a tried and tested routine.

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:30 PM

what you mean i should be picking a tried an tested routine is it all wrong?

squat_this · 01-07-2007, 10:35 PM

What is the fascination with 21's when working the biceps? Practically every newbie routine posted has them!

**big** · 01-07-2007, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unhappy gym goe

what you mean i should be picking a tried an tested routine is it all wrong?

It's impossible to say whether it's all wrong or not without you trying it. You might find that it works REALLY well for you. However, I can tell you in my experience that kind of routine will not work well for many people.

I would suggest that rather than trying to put together a routine, unless you know your body REALLY well, just find a routine that lots of people have used and have got good results from.

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:42 PM

ok ill do that,thanks for the advice

unhappy gym goe · 01-07-2007, 10:42 PM

em take it 21s arent any good

invisiblekid · 02-07-2007, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squat_this

What is the fascination with 21's when working the biceps? Practically every newbie routine posted has them!

I'd also love to know this! You see it in the gym loads. A guy doing 3 sets of 21's usually to complete failure then picking up the dumb bells curling another 3 sets of 8 then concentration curls with horrible swinging motion for another 3 sets of 8 with a a drop set for good measure. Then on to horrible swinging ez bar curls.

It's beyond me why people consider biceps to be the biggest muscle in the human anatomy.

Conrad · 02-07-2007, 10:19 AM

also id drop the shrugs...ive found that they get enough attention during other compound excercises....ive completely dropped them from my latest routine. what do you all think about this?

invisiblekid · 02-07-2007, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unhappy gym goe

Mon-CHEST/TRICEPS

crossovers,db flyes,incline decline press,bench press - Bench first. Then incline, then dips if you can. Add flyes if not.
kick backs,skull crushers,cable pushdowns,overhead extensions - why so many tricep exercises? Two should be sufficient.

Tue-CARDIO/ABS

30 mins hiit cardio before breakie
4/5 diff abs

Wed-BACK/BICEPS

bent over rows,pulldowns wide grip - Add Deads
21s,hammer curls,preacher curls - Drop the 21's

Thur-SHOULDERS/LEGS

shrugs,upright row,front/side delt raise,db press,reverse flyes - I'd do DB Press, Lat Raises, Upright Row, and poss reverse flyes. And in probably that order.
deadlifts,curls,extensions,squats, - What kinda deads? Normal deads would be better included with your back routine IMO. S/L Deads? Then great. Squat first.

Fri-CARDIO/ABS

30mins hiit cardio before breakie
4/5 diff abs

sat/sun off

how does this workout look for a heavy/fat guy wanting fat loss and muscle gains

please comment

unhappy gym goe · 02-07-2007, 08:06 PM

ok thanks for the advice guys i realy want to gewt this spot on iv messed around for years an then quit now i wan tto get serious

squat_this · 02-07-2007, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unhappy gym goe

em take it 21s arent any good

It;s not that they aren't good mate, they just should be saved up your sleeve for when you need them!
Drop them from your routine completely, and when your bi's stop growing come back and ask about them.

01-07-2007, 10:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	how is my new workout all coments apreciated Mon-CHEST/TRICEPS crossovers,db flyes,incline decline press,bench press kick backs,skull crushers,cable pushdowns,overhead extensions Tue-CARDIO/ABS 30 mins hiit cardio before breakie 4/5 diff abs Wed-BACK/BICEPS bent over rows,pulldowns wide grip 21s,hammer curls,preacher curls Thur-SHOULDERS/LEGS shrugs,upright row,front/side delt raise,db press,reverse flyes deadlifts,curls,extensions,squats, Fri-CARDIO/ABS 30mins hiit cardio before breakie 4/5 diff abs sat/sun off how does this workout look for a heavy/fat guy wanting fat loss and muscle gains please comment

01-07-2007, 10:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated all 4 sets that includes warm up set 8/12 reps or to failure

01-07-2007, 10:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beer me Posts: 5,283	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated If you are saying you plan on doing 4 exercises and for each doing 1 warm-up followed by 3 sets to failure, I predict overtraining and not much in the way of growth. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-07-2007, 10:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
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01-07-2007, 10:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
big UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Beer me Posts: 5,283	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated Either don't go to failure on every set, or do less sets. And drop the isolation stuff. Ideally you should be picking a tried and tested routine. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

01-07-2007, 10:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated what you mean i should be picking a tried an tested routine is it all wrong?

01-07-2007, 10:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
squat_this The legend that is LBND!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Surrey Posts: 1,350	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated What is the fascination with 21's when working the biceps? Practically every newbie routine posted has them! __________________ Welcome to this thing of ours...a.k.a the UK-Muscle Mafioso Wasps - Premiership Champions '02-'03, '03-'04, '04-'05, '07-'08 Heineken Cup Winners - 2004, 2007

01-07-2007, 10:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated ok ill do that,thanks for the advice

01-07-2007, 10:42 PM	#10 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated em take it 21s arent any good

02-07-2007, 10:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
Conrad Gym Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: London Town Posts: 491	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated also id drop the shrugs...ive found that they get enough attention during other compound excercises....ive completely dropped them from my latest routine. what do you all think about this?

02-07-2007, 08:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
unhappy gym goe Newbie Trainer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: glasow Posts: 56	Re: how is my new workout all coments apreciated ok thanks for the advice guys i realy want to gewt this spot on iv messed around for years an then quit now i wan tto get serious

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