Pull-ups - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

SCJP · 17-02-2007, 02:17 PM

Gents,

I have well & truly plateaued in respect of my pull-ups, having gone from a peak of 3 sets of 5 with a 20kg dumbbell to failing to complete 5 sets of 5 with 8kg.
I am looking to ditch the exercise for a while, but for what? Nothing else looks as effective for working my lats.
Should I try pull-ups with a hammer type grip or palms out, instead of wide grip, or go back to pull-downs with either cables or levers? What about straight arm pull downs, pullovers or iron crosses?
In terms of reps/sets, I was thinking of starting with 5x5, gradually reducing the volume as I stall, through 8x2, 5x3 & swapping the exercise when I can no longer manage 3x3. Any comments?
Thanks.

ah24 · 17-02-2007, 03:51 PM

Lat pulldowns?

Aldo · 18-02-2007, 02:05 AM

Yup. Lat pull downs work for me. Try to keep a nice wide grip. I eventually aim to place lat pulldown with bar pull-ups/chin-ups. I'm pulling 20Kg less than by body weight at the moment, so I'll need to get a lot stronger first.....

SportDr · 18-02-2007, 10:49 AM

Lat pulldowns various grips.

Low Rows

Straight arm pulldowns in front. (arms locked straight downwardly rotate them in front and towards you pulling down a pulldown bar)

One arm rows

Short Pull Ups, (only pull up a few inches using just your lats, your arms shoul remain straight)

Look up the lats here, once you know how the muscle works its easy to isolate it.

hth

SD

ONE SMART COOKIE · 18-02-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJP

Gents,

I have well & truly plateaued in respect of my pull-ups, having gone from a peak of 3 sets of 5 with a 20kg dumbbell to failing to complete 5 sets of 5 with 8kg.
I am looking to ditch the exercise for a while, but for what? Nothing else looks as effective for working my lats.
Should I try pull-ups with a hammer type grip or palms out, instead of wide grip, or go back to pull-downs with either cables or levers? What about straight arm pull downs, pullovers or iron crosses?
In terms of reps/sets, I was thinking of starting with 5x5, gradually reducing the volume as I stall, through 8x2, 5x3 & swapping the exercise when I can no longer manage 3x3. Any comments?
Thanks.

Change your grips.....Avoid wide grip pull ups...waste of time imho....use any of the following http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio5.htm then consider commando pull ups, towel pull ups, plyometric pull ups, 1 arm assisted, or plain 1 arm pull ups....Theres a long list...If your getting stuck at a set rep then maybe introduce some negatives to help build a little more strenght...when you fail just us a box/bench to step on to get you to the top then resist the pull down..

Chins are far the most functional back exercise you can do so stick with them.......

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNWqJAm8skQ

pookie69 · 18-02-2007, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKIE

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BNWqJAm8skQ

Upside down and 1 finger were quite impressive and cool. Nice one.

ONE SMART COOKIE · 18-02-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pookie69

Upside down and 1 finger were quite impressive and cool. Nice one.

Cheers mate.....Fun to do aswell, about time I got off my ass and did the follow up vid...

SCJP · 18-02-2007, 05:28 PM

I'll be impressed when I see one arm one finger;)

OSC, have you ever climbed? I used to climb a bit (a very little bit) & some of the people I came across could do insane (to me) stuff, like propelling themselves upwards off one arm.

Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone.

samurai69 · 19-02-2007, 06:04 AM

these http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqOvPphr11M reverse ring pullups

and these http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_I_LCHhO8 plyo pullups

too

ONE SMART COOKIE · 19-02-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJP

I'll be impressed when I see one arm one finger;)

Is that a challenge?:p

OSC, have you ever climbed? I used to climb a bit (a very little bit) & some of the people I came across could do insane (to me) stuff, like propelling themselves upwards off one arm.

Not sinse I was at school and the PE teachers used to make us all climb up those sodding thick ropes right to the top and touch the ceiling

Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone.

SCJP · 19-02-2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ONE SMART COOKIE

Avoid wide grip pull ups...waste of time imho

What's wrong with a wide grip? I thought these were supposed to be the most effective for building width.

Thanks.

ONE SMART COOKIE · 20-02-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCJP

What's wrong with a wide grip? I thought these were supposed to be the most effective for building width.

Thanks.

/\/\/\/\ Myth, if your very young you can use the wide grip to stretch out the cratlidge of your clavicles to a small degree, but as for wide grip building wide all your really doing is reducing the length of movement the muscle works...Look at it another way if a pack of wolves were after you and you had to *pull* yourself up & over a wall you wouldn`t use a wide grip would you:smoke:

Captain Hero · 20-02-2007, 02:40 PM

nice thread

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SCJP Looking Freaky Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SW Herts Posts: 972	Pull-ups Gents, I have well & truly plateaued in respect of my pull-ups, having gone from a peak of 3 sets of 5 with a 20kg dumbbell to failing to complete 5 sets of 5 with 8kg. I am looking to ditch the exercise for a while, but for what? Nothing else looks as effective for working my lats. Should I try pull-ups with a hammer type grip or palms out, instead of wide grip, or go back to pull-downs with either cables or levers? What about straight arm pull downs, pullovers or iron crosses? In terms of reps/sets, I was thinking of starting with 5x5, gradually reducing the volume as I stall, through 8x2, 5x3 & swapping the exercise when I can no longer manage 3x3. Any comments? Thanks.

17-02-2007, 03:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Aldo Skinny Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 11	Re: Pull-ups Yup. Lat pull downs work for me. Try to keep a nice wide grip. I eventually aim to place lat pulldown with bar pull-ups/chin-ups. I'm pulling 20Kg less than by body weight at the moment, so I'll need to get a lot stronger first.....

18-02-2007, 10:49 AM	#4 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,667	Re: Pull-ups Lat pulldowns various grips. Low Rows Straight arm pulldowns in front. (arms locked straight downwardly rotate them in front and towards you pulling down a pulldown bar) One arm rows Short Pull Ups, (only pull up a few inches using just your lats, your arms shoul remain straight) Look up the lats here, once you know how the muscle works its easy to isolate it. hth SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819 Last edited by SportDr; 18-02-2007 at 10:56 AM.

18-02-2007, 05:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
SCJP Looking Freaky Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SW Herts Posts: 972	Re: Pull-ups I'll be impressed when I see one arm one finger;) OSC, have you ever climbed? I used to climb a bit (a very little bit) & some of the people I came across could do insane (to me) stuff, like propelling themselves upwards off one arm. Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone.

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samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,076	Re: Pull-ups these http://youtube.com/watch?v=VqOvPphr11M reverse ring pullups and these http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_I_LCHhO8 plyo pullups too

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