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| What Doesnt Kill Me / Makes Me Stronger Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Co. Durham
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![]() ![]() | Chest: Bar or Dumbell I would like some advice on what is best for building up my chest... Should I be using a bar for chest press or dumbell? When I use a bar it feels like I put alot of stress on the front of my shoulders cos they hurt just as much as my chest after each set but dont when I use dumbells?? Could you please suggest a few exercises too as I'm a relative beginner... Much appreciated... |
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| UK-Muscle Moderator | both needed mate imo
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | both mate really,.... front delts have a big responsibility when benching and imo the fixed grip of the barbell puts more on them, as opposed to using Dumbells, when using DB's the changing distance between your hands during the lift takes the emphasis off the front delts,....as opposed the the straight "push out" when using the bar. try flat bar benching , then inclined DB press.... then the following week go with inclined bar and flat DB press,.. i put a stetching type exercise in two like a flat,inclined or declined flye,...and swap this round too. but if your shoulders are playing up maybe leave out the DB flyes and start with the pec dec for now....
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | yes but leave them for now mate ,......
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i also rate dips alot mate.. especially as your a new to it and dips are a compound lift which means they effect pretty much all of the upper body ![]()
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![]() ![]() | A tore my rotator cuff in my shoulder years ago and since then dips cause me a huge amount of pain, is there any similar exercise which will not cause my dodgy shoulder any pain?? |
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| UK-Muscle Moderator | mmmmmm so your shoulder still hurts? did u get it seen to by a physio? as a guy at my gum mullered his and let it get better naturally it just got worse and worse as all the muscles were growing un evenly... do u have an assisted dip machine at yur gym?
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | or go light with a deep decline DB press....and build it up slowly
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![]() ![]() | I never seen a physio just left it for a few months, the gym does have an assisted dip, I'll give it a go. I really appreciate all the help, I must have spent a year doing training in all the wronf ways before I found this site, you guys are great! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Personally I do a varying workout as such Barbell incline press Flat bench flye Dumbell flat Press Cable crossovers. Never do dips as there's too much pressure on my shoulders and triceps. I did dumbell presses fro years and avoided the bench press as I had a bad shoulder injury. Now I have to do Barbell first because even with 70kg dumbells there just isn't enough weight for an effective stimulus from dumbell press. Therefore I do these later on in the workout. You could also try a technique called press-flying whereby you do 5 db pressess followed by 5 flyes then repeat. Use the same weight and only turn your hands at the top of the movement. Awesome pumps from that.
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So i stick to doing flat bench and inclined DB presses only. The whole flat DB press thing has only become a problem as i've started to lift heavier DBs (25kg per DB now, don't laugh!). Any ideas, tips, suggestions?
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Instead after your last rep bring your legs up and holding the dumbells in the air allow the force of the wieght to pull you forward so that you sit up. Perfect.
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![]() | Hey, i've never thought of that - thanks man, i'll try it out next chest day! ![]()
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