some advice please !!!!!!!!!!!!! - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

big leigh · 25-07-2006, 03:56 PM

alright peeps. im a new member and new to weight training, AND I NEED HELP !!!!!!

ive bin training now for about 3 months, not constantly but enough, nothings happening, so i bought some dianobol, deca, and testosterone of my mate whos a big guy,+ a massive tub of protien shake.
i train by my self in a local gym for about 45 mins each day, but find it hard to keep motivated because i cant see any result, am i being to impatiant or am i doin somehting wrong,
any suggestions people as im losing faith and also is there any serious side effects from taking steroids

leigh

DB · 25-07-2006, 03:58 PM

1, u are not ready for steroids....

2, i bet your diet is lettin u down the most followed by your training

3, the 'big guy' that sold u all that gear is a c'unt as its obvious u are not ready for it

4, yes u can get some very bad sides from steroids

the_gre8t_1ne · 25-07-2006, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DB

1, u are not ready for steroids....

2, i bet your diet is lettin u down the most followed by your training

3, the 'big guy' that sold u all that gear is a c'unt as its obvious u are not ready for it

4, yes u can get some very bad sides from steroids

Good advise there! the guy who sold u the juice is only after ur Queens! (as apposed to benjamins us $)

leeston · 25-07-2006, 04:05 PM

dude, I dont mean to be condesending but you are not ready for the gear.

I have been training properly for 18 months and apart from not wanting to use gear, I feel that I would want to get as far as I could cleanly before taking anything.

Sort your diet out first, then looking at your training routine and then look at what natural supplements you need to help you.

Get that right and then in a year or two think about the gear.

I am no to good on the gear and what each does to you but I would damn google them first to get all the info I could before I just stuck stuff in my body without knowing about it.

At the end of the day steroids are drugs which have been developed for a purpose. I doubt that they were designed purely for bb's to grow on and therefore as with any/most drugs there will be side effects.

leeston · 25-07-2006, 04:08 PM

oh yeah - plus after you have been training and eating right for so long there is not such thing a a 'huge tub of protein' only small ones. It will work out best for you if you buy the 'huge tubs' all of the time as even the big ones dont last too long!!!

invisiblekid · 25-07-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DB

1, u are not ready for steroids....

2, i bet your diet is lettin u down the most followed by your training

3, the 'big guy' that sold u all that gear is a c'unt as its obvious u are not ready for it

4, yes u can get some very bad sides from steroids

spot on!

Post your stats, diet and your routine. There are plenty of people here who will give you good advice rather than trying to sell you something which will damage your health seriously if taken incorrectly.

big leigh · 25-07-2006, 04:25 PM

cheers for the advice, keep it coming, my goals are to be a lot bigger than i am, im 6,4" and 15 stone, most of the weight is down to 'beer' unfortunatly, i dont have a set routine that i stick to at the gym so that could be my problem, but i do eat like a horse, ill take the critisism and expert advise that you lot give as its all for my benifit

leigh

DB · 25-07-2006, 04:27 PM

ok can we see your training and diet mate

invisiblekid · 25-07-2006, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by big leigh

cheers for the advice, keep it coming, my goals are to be a lot bigger than i am, im 6,4" and 15 stone, most of the weight is down to 'beer' unfortunatly, i dont have a set routine that i stick to at the gym so that could be my problem, but i do eat like a horse, ill take the critisism and expert advise that you lot give as its all for my benifit

leigh

Eating enough is one problem - but what you eat is the key. What does an average day's diet look like? Be honest.

A set routine is needed IMO - it helps you see how you are progessing as well as targeting selected body parts. It will need changing from time to time - usually when it stops working.

Do you do a full body workout each time you train? I'd suggest searching google for a 3 or 4 day split workout/routine - take a look at the options and when you find something you like the look of come back here post it up. There will be someone who can tweak it slightly for you.

BIG-UNC · 25-07-2006, 04:37 PM

get yourself a good training partner mate some one who will push you to your limits!

this in itself will make you grow! plus a good diet mate and your laughing!

leave the gear alone for now!

big leigh · 25-07-2006, 04:38 PM

here goes,

i go after work about 6.30 monday to friday,
monday - arms and shoulders
tuesday - arms and chest
wednesday - on the rowing machine, swimming
thursday - legs
friday - a bit of everything
thats roughly what i do ,

my diet, i sometimes miss breakfast, but i have cerial or toast, midday i have a tuna baguette at work ,after training i have big meal if i can lots of meat, my biggest vice is chinese, i know i should eat lots of meat so i try.

im early twentys, and i dont smoke, but i do like a drink

ive only took the roids for two weeks now , so should i stop, as its a six week course
leigh

invisiblekid · 25-07-2006, 04:51 PM

I don't know much about roids, so cant really help you there. I'd come off them. PCT might be needed?

Too much arm work. No back routine?

A split something like:

Chest/Tris
Back/Bis
Day off
Shoulders/Abs
Legs
Day off
Day off

Add some cardio in after doing weights or on your days off to lose some Body Fat. You need lean meat - Chicken, Tuna, Steak/Beef. Always have breakfast! Porridge oats mixed with a little reduced sugar jam. Try and have a couple of meals between breakfast and dinner, not just a tuna sandwich. Invest in some Whey Protein.

**hackskii** · 25-07-2006, 05:43 PM

Too much arm work.
Not enough protein.

I would also shoot for 5 meals and they can be a bit smaller in size but have protein, fat and carbs in there.

Pretty vague on the workokut.
What do you do for chest and the rest of your body parts exactally?

megatron · 26-07-2006, 03:33 PM

"ive bin training now for about 3 months"

So you thought you would take steriods. hahahaahahahahah

**hackskii** · 26-07-2006, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by megatron

"ive bin training now for about 3 months"

So you thought you would take steriods. hahahaahahahahah

Arnt you forgetting something?
What about IGF-1, insulin, T3, HGH?

25-07-2006, 03:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
big leigh Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4	some advice please !!!!!!!!!!!!! alright peeps. im a new member and new to weight training, AND I NEED HELP !!!!!! ive bin training now for about 3 months, not constantly but enough, nothings happening, so i bought some dianobol, deca, and testosterone of my mate whos a big guy,+ a massive tub of protien shake. i train by my self in a local gym for about 45 mins each day, but find it hard to keep motivated because i cant see any result, am i being to impatiant or am i doin somehting wrong, any suggestions people as im losing faith and also is there any serious side effects from taking steroids leigh

25-07-2006, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,427	1, u are not ready for steroids.... 2, i bet your diet is lettin u down the most followed by your training 3, the 'big guy' that sold u all that gear is a c'unt as its obvious u are not ready for it 4, yes u can get some very bad sides from steroids __________________ DB To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. often imitated never duplicated To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-07-2006, 04:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,360	dude, I dont mean to be condesending but you are not ready for the gear. I have been training properly for 18 months and apart from not wanting to use gear, I feel that I would want to get as far as I could cleanly before taking anything. Sort your diet out first, then looking at your training routine and then look at what natural supplements you need to help you. Get that right and then in a year or two think about the gear. I am no to good on the gear and what each does to you but I would damn google them first to get all the info I could before I just stuck stuff in my body without knowing about it. At the end of the day steroids are drugs which have been developed for a purpose. I doubt that they were designed purely for bb's to grow on and therefore as with any/most drugs there will be side effects. __________________ Gobal terror they say that we are at war................ but I dont have time for that 'cos them bills keep dropping through my door. Suburban Knights, Hard-Fi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-07-2006, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,360	oh yeah - plus after you have been training and eating right for so long there is not such thing a a 'huge tub of protein' only small ones. It will work out best for you if you buy the 'huge tubs' all of the time as even the big ones dont last too long!!! __________________ Gobal terror they say that we are at war................ but I dont have time for that 'cos them bills keep dropping through my door. Suburban Knights, Hard-Fi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-07-2006, 04:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
big leigh Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4	thanks peeps, keep it coming cheers for the advice, keep it coming, my goals are to be a lot bigger than i am, im 6,4" and 15 stone, most of the weight is down to 'beer' unfortunatly, i dont have a set routine that i stick to at the gym so that could be my problem, but i do eat like a horse, ill take the critisism and expert advise that you lot give as its all for my benifit leigh

25-07-2006, 04:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,427	ok can we see your training and diet mate __________________ DB To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. often imitated never duplicated To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-07-2006, 04:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
BIG-UNC IF YOU BUILD IT.....THEY WILL COME! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 1,945	get yourself a good training partner mate some one who will push you to your limits! this in itself will make you grow! plus a good diet mate and your laughing! leave the gear alone for now! __________________ UKM's Uncle Hackskii's buddy To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-07-2006, 04:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
big leigh Newbie Trainer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 4	here goes, i go after work about 6.30 monday to friday, monday - arms and shoulders tuesday - arms and chest wednesday - on the rowing machine, swimming thursday - legs friday - a bit of everything thats roughly what i do , my diet, i sometimes miss breakfast, but i have cerial or toast, midday i have a tuna baguette at work ,after training i have big meal if i can lots of meat, my biggest vice is chinese, i know i should eat lots of meat so i try. im early twentys, and i dont smoke, but i do like a drink ive only took the roids for two weeks now , so should i stop, as its a six week course leigh

25-07-2006, 04:51 PM	#12 (permalink)
invisiblekid Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,536	I don't know much about roids, so cant really help you there. I'd come off them. PCT might be needed? Too much arm work. No back routine? A split something like: Chest/Tris Back/Bis Day off Shoulders/Abs Legs Day off Day off Add some cardio in after doing weights or on your days off to lose some Body Fat. You need lean meat - Chicken, Tuna, Steak/Beef. Always have breakfast! Porridge oats mixed with a little reduced sugar jam. Try and have a couple of meals between breakfast and dinner, not just a tuna sandwich. Invest in some Whey Protein. __________________ Most bodybuilders are actually insane. Albert Einstein defined insanity as "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

25-07-2006, 05:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,694	Too much arm work. Not enough protein. I would also shoot for 5 meals and they can be a bit smaller in size but have protein, fat and carbs in there. Pretty vague on the workokut. What do you do for chest and the rest of your body parts exactally? __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.