What should be my priority? - help please - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

JDN21 · 04-07-2006, 05:17 PM

Stats:

Age: 24
Height: 5' 9"
Weight: 11st

Could you please take a look at my attached images and answer me this question:

I want to have a toned, quite muscular body that will look good on the beach, therefore, is my priority to lose body fat or put on muscle?

The problem is, I have love handles. I expect that the weight lifting and appropriate diet will increase my levels of testosterone, make me a little bigger while losing some body fat. I dont know whether I should try and get bigger - to a higher weight, or just try and change my body composition.

What would you do in my shoes?

Muscle wise, I have an ok chest and shoulders, I dont have a problem with my legs but my arms could be chunker.

Fat wise, apart from round my mid-section, there is little to speak of.

So in order to get rid of the love handles, do I;
*weight train and eat additional calories for muscle gain?
*weight train with maintenance calories to change composition?
*weight train with calorie defecit to lean out?

Thanks for any help.

DB · 04-07-2006, 05:21 PM

shaving

but seriously just work on heavy compound lifts

squast/deads/military press/dips/chins/ rows/

JDN21 · 04-07-2006, 05:24 PM

lol, I would mate, but the gf likes the hair.

So the classics - lifts and presses. More or less calories?

DB · 04-07-2006, 05:25 PM

more calories dude

post your diet up... your girl likes the hair?/

hope she doesnt have the same feelings about her bodyhair

JDN21 · 04-07-2006, 05:40 PM

Example of Current Diet (approx. 2300kcal)

Breakfast
2 Low fat Sausages
2 Slices seeded wholemeal bread
Protein Shake made w/ semi-skimmed milk

Snack1
Bagel
2 tsp Peanut Butter

Lunch
2 sandwiches made with 3 slices of Turkey Roll, Spinach and low fat salad cream
Piece of fruit

Snack2
25g Nuts
Protein shake (w/ semi-skimmed milk)

Dinner
Lean burger with wholemeal bap, beans and salad

and no, she doesnt practice what she preaches, thank God.

Magic Torch · 04-07-2006, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDN21

Example of Current Diet (approx. 2300kcal)

Breakfast
2 Low fat Sausages - NO NO NO NO NO! Porridge? Defo 100% better choice
2 Slices seeded wholemeal bread - NO bread, have a banana in your porridge?
Protein Shake made w/ semi-skimmed milk - Good

Snack1
Bagel - Crap, have a Jacket pot with Tuna or something, there is nothing good in a bagel
2 tsp Peanut Butter

Lunch
2 sandwiches made with 3 slices of Turkey Roll, Spinach and low fat salad cream - Need proper meat not reconstituted crap, try Chicken or fish with Potato or Rice and Veg
Piece of fruit - OK

Snack2
25g Nuts - Ok
Protein shake (w/ semi-skimmed milk)

Dinner
Lean burger with wholemeal bap, beans and salad

Dinner the same kind of thing as lunch, Protein carbs and a little good fat, also see if you can have another MRP before bed

and no, she doesnt practice what she preaches, thank God.

If you lift a decent compound workout then you will burn the little fat you have, its not enough to worry about so I'd concentrate on eating well and you will grow and slim down at the same time.

Good Luck

J

JDN21 · 04-07-2006, 07:22 PM

Cheers.

Just out of interest, would that diet I posted by of any use to anyone? Its from the book 'The Testosterone Advantage Plan', and I started using it because I was not getting enough fats in my diet, and I continued to use it because I found I was enjoying it whilst putting on a bit of muscle over the past few weeks (only problem being I wasnt shifting the fat).

I will give your diet ago. I have followed VERY similar diets to that in the past, but never combined it will weight lifting for any prolonged period, always with running (which I have put on hold for a while to prevent the catabolic effect in my quest for a better body composition).

Magic Torch · 04-07-2006, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDN21

Cheers.

Just out of interest, would that diet I posted by of any use to anyone? Its from the book 'The Testosterone Advantage Plan', and I started using it because I was not getting enough fats in my diet, and I continued to use it because I found I was enjoying it whilst putting on a bit of muscle over the past few weeks (only problem being I wasnt shifting the fat).

I will give your diet ago. I have followed VERY similar diets to that in the past, but never combined it will weight lifting for any prolonged period, always with running (which I have put on hold for a while to prevent the catabolic effect in my quest for a better body composition).

TBH mate you cant be looking over weeks it should be months, its not the fact that your diet was that bad for a normal guy in the street but for someone who wants to get muscular then it needs to have a better Protein/Carb/Fat split and be 3-4000 Kals a day - but good Kals.

I see it as if I eat a bagel, I will be filled up for a while but my body will not have really had any fuel. I wont be hugry for a while and therefore I wont eat what my body needs.

My diet was a quick sample if you want a great one then post a new thread in the Gaining weight section in the diet forum. And post your workout in the workout section.

Stick at it for 12 weeks before you worry about seeing results.

Good Luck

J

JDN21 · 04-07-2006, 07:32 PM

Thanks,

I've been at the current diet for 5 weeks, and I know you need to stick to them for a long time, but when you are at a plateau, no results for weeks on end screws your morale I suppose.

wiseguy83 · 04-07-2006, 10:16 PM

Muscle wise, I have an ok chest and shoulders,

what chest!ha just kidding mate just train hard and eat well,keep it simple theirs plenty of advice on this site.;)

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04-07-2006, 05:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
JDN21 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	Example of Current Diet (approx. 2300kcal) Breakfast 2 Low fat Sausages 2 Slices seeded wholemeal bread Protein Shake made w/ semi-skimmed milk Snack1 Bagel 2 tsp Peanut Butter Lunch 2 sandwiches made with 3 slices of Turkey Roll, Spinach and low fat salad cream Piece of fruit Snack2 25g Nuts Protein shake (w/ semi-skimmed milk) Dinner Lean burger with wholemeal bap, beans and salad and no, she doesnt practice what she preaches, thank God. Last edited by JDN21; 04-07-2006 at 06:03 PM.

04-07-2006, 05:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
JDN21 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	lol, I would mate, but the gf likes the hair. So the classics - lifts and presses. More or less calories?

04-07-2006, 07:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
JDN21 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	Cheers. Just out of interest, would that diet I posted by of any use to anyone? Its from the book 'The Testosterone Advantage Plan', and I started using it because I was not getting enough fats in my diet, and I continued to use it because I found I was enjoying it whilst putting on a bit of muscle over the past few weeks (only problem being I wasnt shifting the fat). I will give your diet ago. I have followed VERY similar diets to that in the past, but never combined it will weight lifting for any prolonged period, always with running (which I have put on hold for a while to prevent the catabolic effect in my quest for a better body composition).

04-07-2006, 07:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
JDN21 Newbie Trainer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	Thanks, I've been at the current diet for 5 weeks, and I know you need to stick to them for a long time, but when you are at a plateau, no results for weeks on end screws your morale I suppose.

04-07-2006, 10:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
wiseguy83 Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 273	Muscle wise, I have an ok chest and shoulders, what chest!ha just kidding mate just train hard and eat well,keep it simple theirs plenty of advice on this site.;)