UK-Muscle Body Building Community - Bodybuilding Forum  

Go Back   UK-Muscle Body Building Community - Bodybuilding Forum > Training Information > Getting Started

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools
Old 14-08-2006, 12:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
Gym Addict
 
JohnOvManc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Manchester
Posts: 229
JohnOvManc has a spectacular aura aboutJohnOvManc has a spectacular aura about
Nice guide.

There's another one here that is very good also...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...40&postcount=9
worth a look.
JohnOvManc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2006, 02:27 AM   #17 (permalink)
Peg
Super Moderator
 
Peg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Peg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with Hackskii
Yup, that is where I found the book resource and used the sliced picture from there. They've got some good examples, too.

Just waiting for one of our members to get to sliced.
__________________
"21st century man is not conquered by guns, nor by oppression, but by seduction."

"Pride to the human heart is like lard to the pig." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"The best punch is the one that is both first, last, and ends the fight."
Peg is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2006, 03:03 AM   #18 (permalink)
Gym Addict
 
JohnOvManc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Manchester
Posts: 229
JohnOvManc has a spectacular aura aboutJohnOvManc has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peg
Yup, that is where I found the book resource and used the sliced picture from there. They've got some good examples, too.

Just waiting for one of our members to get to sliced.
That is some incredable condition getting BF that low isn't it.
JohnOvManc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2006, 03:50 AM   #19 (permalink)
Peg
Super Moderator
 
Peg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Peg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with Hackskii
It is amazing conditioning and discipline!!!!

Have you ever been sliced?
__________________
"21st century man is not conquered by guns, nor by oppression, but by seduction."

"Pride to the human heart is like lard to the pig." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"The best punch is the one that is both first, last, and ends the fight."
Peg is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2006, 03:54 AM   #20 (permalink)
Gym Addict
 
JohnOvManc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Manchester
Posts: 229
JohnOvManc has a spectacular aura aboutJohnOvManc has a spectacular aura about
no sorry, now where near
the lowest I have ever been is proabaly about 8% and that was when I was boxing a long time ago.
Since doing weights I don't think I have been much lower than 10 or 12%
To get to single figures is hard enough so max respect to those who can retain muscle and go lower... it's not just determination and it's knowledge as well as they say knowledge is power and all that.
JohnOvManc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 19-08-2006, 05:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
Peg
Super Moderator
 
Peg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,465
Peg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with HackskiiPeg Is on a par with Hackskii
Agreed. 100% + respect for those who go single digit. You have to know how to coerce and trick the body into losing the fat and maintaining the muscle.

It takes the strictest of discpline as well. I'm happy around 10% to 12%. it's hard enough for me to get to that, but I'm working on changing my lifestyle to maintain that level of bodyfat.

I don't think I will compete. I weight train more for my health and the feel good high strenuous exercise gives me. I like to be efficient with my time too, so I kill 2 or 3 birds with one stone in that time period as they say.

It really amazes me that the public perception of bodybuilders is that of dumb brutish men when by far they are some of the most disciplined and knowledgable about the health of the body.

How do you maintain your bodyfat% and muscle mass?
__________________
"21st century man is not conquered by guns, nor by oppression, but by seduction."

"Pride to the human heart is like lard to the pig." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

"The best punch is the one that is both first, last, and ends the fight."
Peg is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2006, 01:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
My name is EARL
 
Tatyana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Flesh and Flame with Experiment1 Feb08
Posts: 2,911
Tatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with Hackskii
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peg View Post

How do you maintain your bodyfat% and muscle mass?
This man works with Jay Cutler.


Chris Aceto's Instruction Book for Bodybuilding Championship Bodybuilding

Page 194 section Staying Lean

I will summarise:

Muscle builds the metabolism, more muscle, more calories required.

Fat is dormant, the more fat you carry, the more difficult it becomes to lose fat and the harder it is to build muscle.

Muscle and fat act as a see-saw.

Both have receptors for insulin, insulin is a double edged sword.

It can store and divert the calories eaten towards both muscle and fat.

Lot of muscle, little fat, ratio of receptor sites for insulin are more favourable towards muscle.

When calories are consumed and insulin released, the calories will have a greater affinity for muscle.

Therefore the greater muscle mass you begin to carry, the greater likelihood that what you eat will be funneled towards building more muscle as long as body fat levels fall within the 12% range for men and 17% range for women.

This is sometimes referred to as 'repartioning'.

Once body fat levels are out of control, the repartioning effect to favour muscle building wanes, leaving the foods you eat more likely to begin to favour fat storage.

A person who is fat and eats a 700 calorie meal will release more insulin than the person who is lean and muscular. The fat person will more easily store fat.



This is the good news. It may take some effort to get to these body fat percentages, but once you are there, as long as you are sensible, easy to maintain.

However, don't become complacent as I did and think your body is then 'bomb-proof' cause it is not.

Healthy diet and training are a lifestyle, not just to a means to an end. It gets easier, but that doesn't mean you can stop.

x
x
x

T
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Tatyana is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 23-09-2006, 02:10 PM   #23 (permalink)
My name is EARL
 
Tatyana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Flesh and Flame with Experiment1 Feb08
Posts: 2,911
Tatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with HackskiiTatyana Is on a par with Hackskii
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peg View Post
Agreed. 100% + respect for those who go single digit. You have to know how to coerce and trick the body into losing the fat and maintaining the muscle.

It takes the strictest of discpline as well. I'm happy around 10% to 12%. it's hard enough for me to get to that, but I'm working on changing my lifestyle to maintain that level of bodyfat.
I think people confuse the men's and women's body fat percentages.

I am 10-12% bodyfat in these pics.

In some ways I don't like these pics, cause with dehydration, being tired, feeling weak, you do look like POO but your body will look better.


x
x
x

T

NPA SE Qualifier Sept 2005 Photos by Eric Guy

My side symmetry is really bad as well! Posing is an art form unto itself!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ok side tri (2).jpg (64.1 KB, 303 views)
File Type: jpg ok lats (2).jpg (63.5 KB, 297 views)
File Type: jpg side symmetry (3).jpg (136.2 KB, 297 views)
__________________

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Tatyana; 23-09-2006 at 02:13 PM.
Tatyana is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2006, 08:48 AM   #24 (permalink)
Shouldn't be let out loose....
 
Nine Pack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 1,579
Nine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with Hackskii
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

I know this thread has fizzled out but thought I'd add a little note. This year, just before the UKBFF Britain, I had my skinfolds done (as I do anyway periodically). Using a four site method of bicep, tricep, sub scapular & supra illiac, the sum total of all four sites came to 4mm. All the charts I have put me so far off the scale at the bottom end I cannot accurately say what it was, but the chart goes down to 10mm, where for my age it quoted a BF% of 5.05.
James Llewellin has a pic of me on his fridge door taken backstage last year at Leamington when I was in the same condition. I presume he uses it as an appetite supressant!

It's not nice when you get that low, sitting down becomes painful as there's no padding anywhere. Even the soles of the feet can suffer. Nice. Coupled with that, my wife won't go near me so I can forget about any 'physical contact' till I'm fat & happy again!

Last edited by Nine Pack; 12-12-2006 at 11:17 AM.
Nine Pack is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2006, 03:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
Getting HUGE!
 
supercell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kent
Posts: 1,078
supercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskiisupercell Is on a par with Hackskii
Send a message via MSN to supercell
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

Sadly the picture has now gone but it was certainly an eye opener and motivator. I have seen Paul at these low percentages and it is a little scary but then the places Paul goes to get like that are also scary; places very few will dare venture!!

I think we all have to step back a little and draw the line when BBing becomes a dieting competition and health and mental function are severely comprimised. My body fat never gets that low even on stage but when you carry a lot of muscle (as I do) I think you can look more conditioned than you actually are especially if you have carbed up enough and the muscle is pushing hard against the skin.

However in saying that a really conditioned BBer is a real sight to behold and just shows you what the human body is actually capable of esp if that person within the body has the resolve and dedication of a true warrior!!

James
__________________
James Llewellin - A proud member of Team M.P:lift:


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
- Sports Supplements tailored for You
supercell is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2006, 09:13 PM   #26 (permalink)
Shouldn't be let out loose....
 
Nine Pack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 1,579
Nine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with Hackskii
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

James has hit the nail on the head there. Although I do go to extremes with the condition thing, I actually believe a balance of condition and size is what we should be aiming for, not just freaky, horrible ripped.
Having said that, as I am not blessed with the slabs of muscle James has, next time I'll get so cut you'll be able to see the non return valves opening & closing in my veins!
Nine Pack is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-12-2006, 11:24 AM   #27 (permalink)
DB
Moderator
 
DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SW London
Posts: 10,845
DB Has greatness beyond words
DB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond words
Send a message via MSN to DB
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

oh paul thats the worst when sitting down hurts as u have no fat or water on your ass... :(
__________________
DB
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
:bounce: often imitated never duplicated
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is
afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DB is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-12-2006, 02:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
Shouldn't be let out loose....
 
Nine Pack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 1,579
Nine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with HackskiiNine Pack Is on a par with Hackskii
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

Yup, it's a hoot. It was uncomfortable sitting on the sofa, let alone a hard chair. In reality, I was in that state for only about 3 weeks so it's not too bad. Next time, whenever it will be, I'll go further down as even at the skinfiold levels I had, there was still a bit to come off here & there.
Nine Pack is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-12-2006, 02:43 PM   #29 (permalink)
DB
Moderator
 
DB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: SW London
Posts: 10,845
DB Has greatness beyond words
DB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond wordsDB Has greatness beyond words
Send a message via MSN to DB
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

lol yeah he last 6 weeks on a hardchair but the last 2 weeks were somethign else i had to lay down all the time!!

its nice having a big ass back lol

i use to have to put a cushion on my exercise bike it was so painfull!!
__________________
DB
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
:bounce: often imitated never duplicated
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is
afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
DB is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 20-09-2007, 10:08 AM   #30 (permalink)
eating clucking chickens
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 108
Da Goon will become famous soon enough
Re: Body Fat % Terminology and Pictures

Where can I get a decent pair of body calipers from and is it difficult to do your own 4 site test for body fat?
Da Goon is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:08 PM.
 


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
All information contained within this site is for educational purposes only.
We do not endorse the Buying or selling of illegal substances nor do we promote the use of them.

UK-Muscle.co.uk takes no responsibility for any advertisers, thier content or products sold. All products sold by ANY advertisers are seen to be 'Research Items' only and not intended for Human Use.