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Old 19-11-2008, 12:08 PM   #31 (permalink)
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would you like to go to heaven if there was one??
Sure, but believing in something to hedge my bets undermines any sense of real belief.
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:12 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't think the thread was intended (infact never asked) whehter god/haven exist or not!
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:12 PM   #33 (permalink)
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well you cant help how you feel and think about something.... even without any concrete proof it doesnt mean something doesnt exist, perhaps you only get the answers when we die
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I don't think the thread was intended (infact never asked) whehter god/haven exist or not!
yes but it always boils down to the same thing, and neither side ever win
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one side will win. only time will tell
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:17 PM   #36 (permalink)
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yes but it always boils down to the same thing, and neither side ever win
Cos there's nothing to win or lose!
As said i don't believe but i have the outmost respect for ppl who do and have a deep faith for something that it's not proved!
So if both sides learnt to respect each other there would be no argument, no winning or losing...just respect!
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salvation my friend, salvation!!!
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:26 PM   #38 (permalink)
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religion was the greatest invention of the romans to make people submissive.
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:29 PM   #39 (permalink)
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religion was the greatest invention of the romans to make people submissive.

If I had to choose one it would be ancient Greek/Roman I like the idea of old Zeus with his lightning bolts and gods pretending to be animals that then have sex with humans... That's far more believable.
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There is nothing wrong with that vid at all they guy has obviously done well and fair play to him, he has his beliefs and i dont see why just because his beliefs may differ from others why people have to knock him so much.

I have my beliefs just liike anyone else but i dont knock others for there beliefs.
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:30 PM   #41 (permalink)
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i am atheist but a good saying comes to mind

'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence'
 
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:32 PM   #42 (permalink)
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religion was the greatest invention of the romans to make people submissive.
That is absolutely not true!
The Romans always let the conquered ppl keep their gods and left them absolute freedom in that department...actually the Romans themselves imported a few foreing gods!
All this changed when christianity became the only allowed religion and that was the main reason for the fall of the mighty Roman Empire.
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well you cant help how you feel and think about something.... even without any concrete proof it doesnt mean something doesnt exist, perhaps you only get the answers when we die

Good post mate.

I thought the whole idea of faith anyway was to believe without proof, if you have to have something proved then you dont have faith in it.
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I have my beliefs just liike anyone else but i dont knock others for there beliefs.
Agree 100% and if more ppl thought like that there would be less wars!
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Old 19-11-2008, 12:34 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Good post mate.

I thought the whole idea of faith anyway was to believe without proof, if you have to have something proved then you dont have faith in it.
I don't think so at all, I have faith in certian people I trust because they have proven themselves trustworthy. I have fath in air travel because its been proven to work through mathematics and engineering. I have little faith in the UK government because they have proven themselves to be inept ****wits.

You are talking about blind faith
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