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Old 28-10-2004, 02:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Too Good to be true???

Guys - I've just had a strange call -and I am always one to look a gift horse in the mouth - seems I've won a 7day holiday...

Apparently I filled in a survay sometime in the past 3 years and I have had my name drawn.. it is with a travel agency called sunshine travle and the holiday is from Club La Costa....

I NEVER win Anything.. so am trying to work out if there is a scam going on here somewhere.... what do u think.....
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Old 28-10-2004, 02:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It has scam written all over it mate, either that or there will be lots of smallprint of 'extras' that you do need to pay for .. sorry.



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Old 28-10-2004, 02:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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you never know, just wait for the details to come though, have a good read, you might have to pay for just the flights or somthing

hope you have won it, you deserve a break
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Old 28-10-2004, 02:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would ignore anything like that even though the best things in life are free I don't this means holidays!
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Old 28-10-2004, 02:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Hello mate,

I hope it is just some good luck on your part. I would not bother with it my self though.

Best thing to have done is, ask for the branch address and website etc.
If the caller can't confirm any of that, you know it's a load of rubbish.

Also, with most genuine surveys you are asked to fill your address out. Did the caller already have your address details, or did you have to provide it all?

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if you cant remember actually filling anything out then the chances are its a load of crap.

like those canadian lottery winner scams.
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Old 29-10-2004, 12:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thx for the advice guys....

I got mailed this by a friend - looks like you were all correct - Shame, I would have liked to have had a holiday!!!!

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CLC MARKETING - Express Travel Promotions. How Club la Costa's marketing
really works for Mid-West (Telford Sales), London (Watford Sales) and South
of London (Maidenhead Sales) areas of the UK by an insider. If you are lucky
enough to live with in about a 150 mile radius of one the above sales
centres and are listed in the phone book, you will most likely have been or
will be contacted by Express Travel
Promotions. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - You
are told that a promotion is running and have been selected to receive a
holiday due to the fact you have completed a consumer survey about 18 month
ago.(hard to remember, sometimes true but very, very rarely). You are asked
four questions, are you:- 1. Married or living together, 2. Both you and
your partner are aged between 28-65 3. You own your own home 4. and you are
a family income of £18 000+ per year (you must fit in to these categories to
be able to get finance for a £6500 timeshare deal) If you have answered
"YES" to all of the above you will be given a reference number (i.e. W1, W2,
M2, T24 etc.) which refers to the person you spoke to (so they know who to
pay commission to, if you call in) and also a freephone number. You are told
that there are only fifty holidays on offer (to make you feel special) and
you must call in straight away(so you don't have to much time to think and
actually do it) to claim you holiday. The above is done so that the staff
answering the freephone number are only speaking to gullible people who are
easily bride and that Qualify (can get finance) If you call in to claim your
holiday, you are told you will receive four free return flights, Plus luxury
accommodation (really 3 star if your lucky) for six people for seven nights
and all you are to paid is a processing fee of £39.50 per person plus travel
insurance. To receive this wonderful offer, you are told that all you have
to do, is collect the holiday vouchers from their offices at a particular
time and date(which will be sometime within only two to five days time and
mostly likely during working hours), where you are told all about your
holiday and this promotion. (Really a sales presentation on the Destination
Holiday Club which is one of Club La Costa's current timeshare products.)
You will then receive a letter confirming the offer and the time and date of
the presentation, usually with a map, directions and qualifying points
photocopied on the back.(However, as little as possible is put in writing,
so they do not incriminate themselves in anyway. It is also signed from a
person who does not actually exist, recently a Mr Matthew Ward) They call
you again (the confirmation call), the day before the presentation, to
supposedly confirm the appointment, this call is made to talk you around, if
there are any doubts in your mind and pursued you into coming the following
day.) If you come to collect your holiday you will be attending a normal
timeshare presentation, where, if you don't give in to their cajoling and
persuasive ways and walk away without buying/joining a timeshare scheme,
will receive you holiday. I Guarantee, you will be disappointed with you
FREE Holiday
Voucher. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WHY
PEOPLE FEEL THEY HAVE BEEN CONNED ------------------------------------- The
Holiday has a price(To CLC and their Voucher Company(s), it still has to be
profitable !), it may only cost £39.50 per person, but there will be
catches:- You will have very limited or USALLY NO CHOICE of:- 1. Destination
(it's what they can get you is what you get) 2. Departure date (It will be
on a Stand-by Basis giving you no choice of dates and only 14-60 days notice
of your departure.) 3. UK Gateway (You will be flying on the cheapest
flights available no matter what airport they fly from and how close the
airport is to your home. Just because you live in London, doesn't mean you
won't be flying from Glasgow!) 4. Insurance (You may have to purchase their
well over priced holiday insurance.) 5. Booking (Only one holiday offer will
be made to you, which may only be at fourteen days notice, if you can not
except this for work or any other reasons whatsoever, you will lose your
holiday, Any monies paid, and CLC will then be released of any ties to
yourselves!) The Accommodation used for these offers is gained free of
charge by CLC/The voucher companies as they are timeshare resorts, which in
exchange for their room, they get you (Yes, you've guessed it !) at another
Timeshare presentation .(As you are abroad on your holiday, this time it is
NOT governed by UK Laws and there are NO two week cooling off periods for
you to cancel an agreement, if they can get you to sign, that's it, there's
no going back ) Within the voucher booklet there will be extra options to
allow you to have "Choices". If you take these options up, when you get the
bill it will have cost more than if you had just paid for a holiday in the
first place. You will either receive no free flights (their only expensive)
or you will receive free flights on a "Buy one, Get One Free" Basis. The
flights you purchase will be at an extortionate price, so they cover the
cost to CLC for your free flights and also make them profit on top! As well
as the offer being rubbish, the other problem is the way in which you are
informed by telephone. You will usually talk (on all three calls) to staff
aged between 16-22 year old, who are put under a lot of pressure, are paid
badly, forced to work long hours, by their management's bully boy tactics,
in an attempt to get results and achieve unrealistic targets. Although they
have carefully crafted scripts (Designed and written to explain the holiday
offer being very economical with the truth, designed to mislead you, without
actually lying ) They are supposed to read off these scipts and use lists of
questions you may ask with their scripted answers, they wander. Although I
am sure this is not CLC's policy, there young staff are put under so much
pressure that they begin to "Pitch Heat" and lie to you, telling you just
about anything, to get you to their presentation and earn another £1.50
commission. They fear the commonest question, "Is it timeshare", and though
they won't say no, they won't say yes either. The current scripted answer to
this is "The only link that we have to Timeshare is that we are governed by
the Timeshare Council, that's because we are a holiday company and not a
travel agent, we do not sell static property of any kind." What is that
supposed to mean? This has become very common and usual practice, which in
my personal experience is the result of most peoples displeasure. Whether or
not all this has been going on for sometime, I don't know. However I do know
these have always been the policies of newly appointed Director of Marketing
for Club la Costa and long term timeshare con man Jason Wynne (£250 000 per
annum) and his sidekick goon Matthew Ponting (£35 000 per annum). Who have
reached these positions by conning and acquiring millions of pounds, using a
string of timeshare companies before ditching them when the heat is on. You
may have met them before trading under any of the following company names :-
LFB Promotions (which believe it or not stands for "Load of F***ing
B*****ks"), Blaze Travel, Travel Marketing Associates, ML Management and
Development, Travel Marketing Consultant, Global Marketing Consultants,
Vacation 2000, Club Destination International, East Anglian Holiday Villas,
Vacation 2000 (Holiday Club Anglia), Havershill Management, Portrait
Holidays and there's many, many, more. In the past Club la Costa has been
one of the straighter laced timeshare companies, with a good reputation and
good products, lets hope that Roy keeps it this way and spins these guys
before they spin CLC, like the many companies they have been involved in
before.
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That's fcuked man...I hate those scamming mo fo's...so many people get sucked in though...a real pitty.
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