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Old 13-05-2008, 11:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Help! Is it possible to stop a sore throat

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Sorry to say this lads. but ALL of these 'rememdies' youve mentioned will NOT get rid of the virus.

They might be some pain relief to eleviate symptoms such as blocked nose, tears, saw lining of throat, inflamed sinus' etc etc...

BUT...THEY WILL NOT DESTROY A VIRUS!

If it was that simple, scientists would be having a field day.

It is a virus (one of thousands) that will cause a cold/flu, because it attacks the receptors in the throat most susceptable for it to get into the human body...hence why your throat feels sore.

Vit c, echinacea, 'sweating it out', aspirin, salt water etc etc CAN NOT destroy a virus...they might alleviate some symptoms of the virus slightly BUT so far we dont know of anything that will kill one of the thousands of virus' responsible for cold/flu.

Its possible to immunise against the flu virus but we cant cure it if someone already has it. Just relieve symptoms slightly.
I disagree....

Last time I had anti-biotics for flu was over 10 years ago. I have had many sore throats during my life time to point I could not eat.drink or swallow but since gardling with salt water they never get out of hand. Granted I load up the vitamin C but I dont see a doctor for colds and flus. And I might be catching it before it's a full blown sore throat these days but so far everyone around me suffers.

Now I know what you saying BritBB but I can only report on what I have experience specially since I always used to get sore throats. Maybe faith in the remedy is more powerful than the virus... who knows?

And I dont believe doctors and all their shyte they talk anyway. After all they say steroids kills. Whenever you there they push whatever they get the most kickbacks.

"more muscle" - Try the salt water and report back to us. 3 days will be enough time to notice a good change.
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I disagree....

Last time I had anti-biotics for flu was over 10 years ago. I have had many sore throats during my life time to point I could not eat.drink or swallow but since gardling with salt water they never get out of hand. Granted I load up the vitamin C but I dont see a doctor for colds and flus. And I might be catching it before it's a full blown sore throat these days but so far everyone around me suffers.

Now I know what you saying BritBB but I can only report on what I have experience specially since I always used to get sore throats. Maybe faith in the remedy is more powerful than the virus... who knows?

And I dont believe doctors and all their shyte they talk anyway. After all they say steroids kills. Whenever you there they push whatever they get the most kickbacks.

"more muscle" - Try the salt water and report back to us. 3 days will be enough time to notice a good change.

You're saying salt water has saved you from colds? Or a mixture of lotions and potions? It's not really wise to comment on the immune system if you don't know how it works mate, don't you think? It may be the case that the bout of infection you suffered 10 years ago allowed you to develop a very effective specific immunity. I think your post in an uninformed one to be honest.

Anyway, antibiotics only work on bacterial infections not viruses. I think your getting mixed up between prevention and a remedy designed to relieve discomfort.

Gargling with salt water will most likely help him as he already has some sort of infection. It will ease his throat by reducing inflammation, but it won't save anyone from the common cold.

Doctors often say that steroids kill, but so do the majority of non steroid users. In fact, I would be a fool to think that my life is not being shortened even by the smallest degree by continued cycling of gear. Doctors do however save our lives.Trust me their interest is that of the patient.
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Old 14-05-2008, 12:32 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Help! Is it possible to stop a sore throat

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You're saying salt water has saved you from colds? Or a mixture of lotions and potions? It's not really wise to comment on the immune system if you don't know how it works mate, don't you think? It may be the case that the bout of infection you suffered 10 years ago allowed you to develop a very effective specific immunity. I think your post in an uninformed one to be honest.

Anyway, antibiotics only work on bacterial infections not viruses. I think your getting mixed up between prevention and a remedy designed to relieve discomfort.

Gargling with salt water will most likely help him as he already has some sort of infection. It will ease his throat by reducing inflammation, but it won't save anyone from the common cold.

Doctors often say that steroids kill, but so do the majority of non steroid users. In fact, I would be a fool to think that my life is not being shortened even by the smallest degree by continued cycling of gear. Doctors do however save our lives.Trust me their interest is that of the patient.
I never said salt water got rid of a cold for me as that doesnt make sense. If I did then that's bad typing on my part. I said I find it gets rid of sore throats for me, or as you say eases the symptons.
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I never said salt water got rid of a cold for me as that doesnt make sense. If I did then that's bad typing on my part. I said I find it gets rid of sore throats for me, or as you say eases the symptons.
Than we agree

Yeah, very effective at easing the pain. As water follows salt, it's good for drawing fluid out of the tissues of the throat to reduce swelling etc.
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I disagree....

Last time I had anti-biotics for flu was over 10 years ago. I have had many sore throats during my life time to point I could not eat.drink or swallow but since gardling with salt water they never get out of hand. Granted I load up the vitamin C but I dont see a doctor for colds and flus. And I might be catching it before it's a full blown sore throat these days but so far everyone around me suffers.

Now I know what you saying BritBB but I can only report on what I have experience specially since I always used to get sore throats. Maybe faith in the remedy is more powerful than the virus... who knows?

And I dont believe doctors and all their shyte they talk anyway. After all they say steroids kills. Whenever you there they push whatever they get the most kickbacks.

"more muscle" - Try the salt water and report back to us. 3 days will be enough time to notice a good change.
Tainted, anti biotics are NOT effective against virus'. They are medicine to destroy bacteria ie penicilin, flucloxicilin etc etc...

We dont know anything that will actually destroy the virus' that are responsible for colds.

If it was that simple, scientists could simply create an anti biotic that would destroy hiv or hepatitus...it doesnt work like that mate. Virus' are not 'living organisms' as we know of, they have no nucleas. They enter the hosts body and attack the hosts cells, they enter the cell and replicate dna and rna in the body with their own function...this allows them to continue.

Of course there are ways of killing a virus though...if we took the small pox virus and put a test tube of it inside a furnace at 2000 degrees celcius then its going to be destroyed as it cant withstand that temperature...however what good is that if someone is infected by it.

Infact small pox and polio are excellent examples of amazing breakthroughs in science, they have virtually been irradicated now due to vaccines. Only perhaps in africa or asia are they still around, even there they are very uncommon because most babies are vaccinated for the virus' from birth which means the adults grow up to be immune and thus the virus is destroyed as it can no longer attack humans and replicate.

Of course though in some parts of africa or asia you still have the terrible disease because via propaganda etc some societies believe that the vaccines are some sort of 'american controlling injection' that is injected into babies to control them or make them ill or whatever...as a result the poor child is susceptable of catching small pox or polio because the parents/society have been brainwashed into thinking it is an evil 'controlling injection' secretly given to babies by the 'evil americans'...but hey...thats world politics for you isnt it

Gargling with salt water is not going to kill a virus mate. If it stopped your saw throat then the reason is because you didnt have a viral infectin in the first place. It will have been caused by something else.

Its the same as catching herpes and saying 'lets bathe the infected area in salt water and that will get rid of it'...it doesnt work like that...the herpes virus stays in the human body within the spinal chord for a persons life...its just that it is dormant.

Ie with chicken pox it is rare to catch it twice, chicken pox is a form of the herpes virus. The virus can become active again if triggered via other virus', bacteria, old age, poor immune system etc etc and the result is another disease called shingles...which can be very unpleasant.

End of the day, if one gets a cold, try echinacea, try salt water gargling, load up on vit c as it strengthens the immune system and drink plenty of water. Take paracetamol for headache and pain relief aswell. But you arent going to destroy the virus that is giving you symptoms of the cold/flu...you migt manage to alleviate symptoms however.

Edit, just saw your last post tainted...yeah youre right, just because it was a sore throat it doesnt mean it was a virus. Ive never tried salt water gargling so maybe it is effective at alleviating pain of a sore throat...but all i know is that when i get a cold/flu like illness and my sinus'/throat lining are all inflamed and it feels like ive got a tennis ball covered in sand paper jammed in my throat, then i know that its a viral infection and im gonna be fukd for the week :(

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