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Why you keep your mouth shut...

The news here hasn't mentioned this yet, but they found this girl dead last night. They mention in the article that she's "helping police", but they fail to mention that this girl was arrested for the third time trafficing large amount of pot and other stuff in the mail from california. When she got arrested a few weeks ago she decided to save her own skin and snitch on anyone and everyone.

The day before this happened she wore a wire for the police during a gun purchase from these two suspects. People close to her and knew what was going on think she may have had a wire on when she was kidnapped.

I'm not saying that this girl deserved to be killed, but she knew what she was doing. If Evel Kenevel died on a big jump it would be a tragedy, but it was a calculated risk he decided to take himself. Selling drugs and toting guns is another lifestyle that people need to consider the reality of. If you think you can't handle a little time and would turn state's evidence than you shouldn't even think about trying to be 2 PAC in the first place.

Wish the papers would've mentioned this so the whole community wouldn't be in panic thinking that random girls are getting picked up off the street. Hell, if I was back home in miami this wouldn't even make the news since it was an "isolated incident."

If these guys didn't do this someone else probably may have. This is why you keep your mouth shut. Doing a couple years in prison is better than losing your life.

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Twenty-three year-old Rachel Hoffman has been missing since Wednesday (5/7) night .
Now two men are under arrest in connection with her disappearance. Hoffman's car was found Thursday (5/8) afternoon and our cameras were the only ones there as investigators searched for any sign of the young woman, making sure not to leave any stone unturned.
Authorities spent more than two hours searching Rachel Hoffman's car looking for evidence that will lead them to the 23 year-old.
Hoffman was last seen Wednesday night at about 7pm near ForestMeadows Park on North Meridian Road. Officials say her 2005 silver Volvo was discovered at about 12pm Thursday afternoon.
It was parked under a tree in the parking lot of United Welding Services in Perry.
Stephen Brock, a worker for United Services said, "It is kinda frightening. I mean right out here, outside of work, something like that happens."
Officials took her car for further investigation, but at this point they haven't said what they found. Police say Hoffman provided assistance for them during a police operation with TPD.
Officials say they have arrested Andrea Green and Deneilo Bradshaw for kidnapping and robbery. They were found in Orlando and are being questioned. Officials hope through their information they can find the young woman.
OFC Dave McCranie with the Tallahassee Police Department said, "Our hope obviously is that ms. Hoffman is still alive. Her parents are here in touch and we've been talking to them and our goal is to bring closure to this incident and our hoped prayer is that she is safe."
Hoffman is 5'-7", 135 pounds, she was last seen wearing a green V-neck style shirt, black skirt with varying colors on the bottom, and black flip flops.
Police have not gone into detail about what kind of operation Hoffman was assisting them with.
We will keep you posted as we receive more information.
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Re: Why you keep your mouth shut...

Yes and on the flip side we dont hear of the million and one cases where information has helped police weed scum off the streets including, pimps, mr peter files and rapists

As horrible as this case is and as much as i feel for the girl we cant sit with our mouths shut based on these events

Decide whether its worth coming forward, make an informed decision, live with the consequences good or bad
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Re: Why you keep your mouth shut...

the trouble is once you start grassing up big time gangsters its generally not just you but your family that gets it aswell......... unfortunately by giving in names it seems she signed her own death warrant
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Re: Why you keep your mouth shut...

Here's the update. To bad they're a day to late with the fact they found her body. Their's still a bunch of misinformation here. She was picked up the other day like it states in the news paper, but it wasn't for failure to appear in court. It was because they knew what she was up on a warrant and she decided to sing rather than go to prison.

If, like the article says, she was already sentenced to probation and rehab, than her case was pretty much done at that point. No more court dates, just visits to the p.o.

I'm not saying the police don't use informants for any good, but they're also getting people killed in the process. Plain and simple, tallahassee is not miami. The police here don't have the money, the know how, or a big enough city to protect you in. This girl was a sitting duck. On the other hand, this is why you don't do dirt if you even think you might rat on people to save your own skin. Besides the principal of the matter it can cost you your life and a lot more.

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updated 11:55 a.m.

Tallahassee police have confirmed that Rachel Hoffman, a 23-year-old woman who went missing Wednesday, has been found dead in rural Taylor County.

Two suspects in her death, Andrea J. Green and Deneilo Bradshaw, led investigators to the scene, said David McCranie, spokesman for the Tallahassee Police Department.

"They led us to Miss Hoffman's body," McCranie said in a news conference late this morning. "She is deceased."

Hoffman, a Florida State University graduate, disappeared Wednesday night near Forestmeadows Park on North Meridian Road.

She had been working with TPD's narcotics unit in an investigation. However, she went outside TPD safety protocols, McCranie said.

"She met with Green and Bradshaw on her own," McCranie said today. "And that meeting ultimately resulted in her murder."

McCranie described Hoffman as a "good person."

"The family's obviously suffering," he said.

Agents with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement arrested Green and Bradshaw Thursday in Orlando on charges of kidnapping and armed robbery. They were flown to the Tallahassee area this morning.

More charges against them are pending, McCranie said.

Hoffman's body was found about 7 a.m.

Hoffman served three days in Leon County Jail this year, from April 4 to April 6, for failure to appear in court, according to court records.

That sentence stems from her arrest last year on a charge of possessing more than 20 grams of marijuana, a felony.

She was arrested after being pulled over for speeding on Feb. 22, 2007. The arresting officer found 25.7 grams of cannabis in her car, court records show. Hoffman was sentenced to probation, community service, and she was required to attend a drug-rehabilitation program.

Green, of Perry, spent nearly nine months in prison from 2004 to 2005 for selling marijuana and aggravated assault in Taylor County, according to the Florida Department of Corrections.

TPD is expected to have another news conference at 4 p.m. in Tallahassee.
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Updated: Rachel Hoffman facing multiple felony charges when agreed to help police

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Updated 6:18 p.m.

When the slain Tallahassee woman Rachel Hoffman agreed to assist police in Wednesday’s buy-bust operation, she was facing multiple felony charges and was in a diversion program for possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana, said Tallahassee Police Chief Dennis Jones in a news conference today.

“It is not unusual to have known drug dealers or users offer to assist police in narcotics investigations,” Jones said. “Rachel was no exception.”

Hoffman was facing charges of possession of ecstasy with intent to sell, possession of controlled substance with intent to sell, maintaining a drug house and possession of drug paraphernalia, he said.

She agreed to buy 1,500 pills of ecstasy, 2 ounces of cocaine or crack cocaine and a gun from two men who are now suspected of kidnapping and robbing her.

“Unfortunately, Rachel chose to ignore precautions established in a previous briefing as well as the direction of her case agent,” Jones said.

Hoffman left the Forestmeadows Park area, where several police officers were watching her, to go meet Andrea J. Green and Deneilo Bradshaw.

Police tried to stop her, but were unsuccessful, said police spokesman Officer David McCranie. It’s not clear how they lost sight of her or where she went.

Murder charges against Green and Bradshaw are pending, officials said.
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The best friend of slain Tallahassee woman Rachel Hoffman remembered her as fun-loving and smart.

"She was everything -- smart, incredibly bright and intuitive," said Jessica Weinstock, who went to Florida State University with Hoffman. "She also really loved to have fun."

Hoffman, who was working with the Tallahassee Police Department's vice unit in an investigation, went missing Wednesday night near Forestmeadows Park. Investigators found her body today in rural Taylor County. Two men have been arrested in connection with her disappearance.

Hoffman and Weinstock used to go to the Beta Bar, the Warehouse and other bars and clubs to see live bands. She had two cats, named Jimi Hendrix and Bentley.

"She loved music -- we loved going to shows and festivals, anything that was an excuse to go on a road trip," Weinstock said.

"She was a pool shark," Weinstock said. "She could beat anybody at pool."

Weinstock, who now lives in Miami, last saw her best friend the weekend of April 26, when their friends were graduating from Florida State University. They ate sushi at a local restaurant before Weinstock left for the airport. They decided Hoffman would come down the next time a good band was in Miami.

"I'm just devastated to lose her," Weinstock said.
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