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Old 12-04-2008, 02:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

"Every single Metropolitan police officer will be 'microchipped' so top brass can monitor their movements on a Big Brother style tracking scheme, it can be revealed today."

First it will be the coppers then the ambulance, fire and military services.


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Old 12-04-2008, 02:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

This is disgraceful and unnecessary.

Haven't our government got it the wrong way round? Shouldn't it be the suspected terrorists that are micro-chipped thus enabling us to send them back to where they came from?

Oh but no, that would be against their human rights.....

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Old 12-04-2008, 02:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is disgraceful and unnecessary.

Haven't our government got it the wrong way round? Shouldn't it be the suspected terrorists that are micro-chipped thus enabling us to send them back to where they came from?

Oh but no, that would be against their human rights.....

This country is f*****.
Exactly, totally agree.
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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

Instead of chipping the Police why not start with toe rags and peapo's first.
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This type of thing in the news winds me up soooooo much....

It just shows the state of our country and the exact reasoning behind the huge numbers of britons fleeing en mass!
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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

On the one hand, it's yet another attack on our freedoms and civil liberties. On the other hand, it might save lives. Folks trapped in buildings etc...
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On the one hand, it's yet another attack on our freedoms and civil liberties. On the other hand, it might save lives. Folks trapped in buildings etc...

Folks trapped in buildings ect? If they are trapped they are trapped, a chip will not help them. Find them yes, but when was the the last time a person was trapped in a building without it being known (by emergancy services ect ). could be a good thing if it was world wide to track hosages in Iraq ect.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

Couldnt one argue it is a good idea as its for their 'safety', to track them if they are hurt or kidnapped etc and it would be good for that purpose?

It could be v benificial in a way, could it not?

However like most government institutions these days its yet another step in the wrong direction, it will require more and more beaurocracy, more paperwork.

For every 1 policeman there will be 10 people watching over them.

But i think it shows a distrust to the police service. We all know that its really in place so that the government can follow their movement everywhere, not for safety but for politically correct reasons.

Wouldnt suprise me if the government have codes on each chip they are followung via satelite ie 'male, female, asian, white, black' etc etc.

Then they can send in a certain amount of females and a certain amout of asians etc etc to specific areas to deal with things to try to promote their 'we are representing the community' bullsh*t.

YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, YOUR NOT THERE TO 'REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY', YOUR THERE TO SERVE AND UPHOLD THE FRIGGIN LAW!!!

If i call the police because my house is being burgalled and IF the police turn up on time, i dont care if the officers are asian, black or white, just that they turn up on time and have enough physical ability to catch the burglars and put them in jail. If however 2 fat female officers and a little skinny 21 year old boy turn up and cant deal with the situation, what use are they? They are totally and completely useless.

EDIT...THIS IS IMPORTANT:

I forgot to say, about 2 years back i worked at a street carnival doing security in brixton london, the coldharbour one.

I was the only white security guard (the rest of black/west indian ethnicity) and had absolutely NO trouble whatsoever from the locals because i was polite and friendly...i wasnt looking at people's race or religion, just 'people', who they are as a person.

However, every single uniform officer was white. I'll get to why in a minute. The police were labelling it as a 'community building project' to ensure the carnival goes well.

At the carnival there were people freely walking around with marajuana, bootleg and fake cd's and dvd's (pirate copies) being sold on street corners, foul language, a few scraps YET IT WAS ALL COMPLETELY IGNORED. It was quite obvious the purpose was to bring lots of white officers in and do absolutely nothing, one of livingstons great ideas that 'the white police officers dont hate you' useless political statements...the locals at the carnival could see this pathetic politically correct attempt at 'community bridging'...it was so obvious.

Anyway it was obvious to me that there was some major dealing going on, i kept tabs on the same guy (something doormen do) and could see him going up and down the street and shaking hands with people at various shops, he would then go back into a pub, change clothes...then go back to the various shops and shake hands at the same place with different people. This was a repeated process a good few times. So i followed him, suprise suprise when i looked at the hand shake, something indeed was swapping hands.

So, i went over to one of the officers that was standing around. (Baring in mind there were around 5,000 of the locals and 100 white officers in yellow and blue stricking out like saw thumbs), i didnt want to draw attention to myself. I casually approached an officer, asked him what the time was, thanked him and then whispered 'ive got some important info for you mate, walk casually with me round the corner in 10 seconds to make it look inconspicuous'.

WHAT HAPPENED??? The officer shouted out 'pardon', then gathered 3 of his colleagues together and fumbled round the corner to meet me. They were followed by a group of about 8 black lads and there were more around the corner...they just shouted out 'what was it you want to tell us' right infront of the gang beside us.

Needless to say i just said 'sorry, mix up guys, nev mind, nev mind'...I could not believe how useless these police were. That i was a doorman and could see and prove the blatant crack running going on, yet they did nothing...then when i tried to alert them to the problem they are totally loudmouthed and could not opperate secretively or slightly covert in the nature of the situation.

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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

That sounds like the most asinine idea I've heard of in a long time. If you can't trust the very ppl you hire to keep you safe what chances do you have to further secure your civil liberties...you track dogs and wildlife not human beings, or atleast not the good ones. If there truely is a need to monitor your officers where abouts then tracking systems can easily and more afforable be placed in uniform attire such as the one thing most officers hold dear to their Hearts...their badge...How could you justify giving them access to your entire life and whereabout even when off duty for a job...That's all it is...A job...Nothing more...nothing less...If a motion of this nature was to be made in America the very real threat of a police state could emerge, experianced law enforcement officer would abandon their positions almost immediately and would set back any type of progression 20 yrs.
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Re: Would you accept a tracking chip if your job depended on it?

Brit....the filth won't turn up if you're being burgled. They'll arrive 4 days later to take a statement.
Unless, you smash fukc out the burglar then they'll turn up immediately to arrest you....
If it wasn't so pathetic it'd make you laugh. But it is true of the way the whole justice system works today, unfotunately,.
I for one would rather go back to the days when a copper gave you a clip round the ear for fcuking about. Not like today, where a hoodie can sue if touched, which is why the filth are useless, and target orientated.
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Couldnt one argue it is a good idea as its for their 'safety', to track them if they are hurt or kidnapped etc and it would be good for that purpose?

It could be v benificial in a way, could it not?

However like most government institutions these days its yet another step in the wrong direction, it will require more and more beaurocracy, more paperwork.

For every 1 policeman there will be 10 people watching over them.

But i think it shows a distrust to the police service. We all know that its really in place so that the government can follow their movement everywhere, not for safety but for politically correct reasons.

Wouldnt suprise me if the government have codes on each chip they are followung via satelite ie 'male, female, asian, white, black' etc etc.

Then they can send in a certain amount of females and a certain amout of asians etc etc to specific areas to deal with things to try to promote their 'we are representing the community' bullsh*t.

YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, YOUR NOT THERE TO 'REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY', YOUR THERE TO SERVE AND UPHOLD THE FRIGGIN LAW!!!

If i call the police because my house is being burgalled and IF the police turn up on time, i dont care if the officers are asian, black or white, just that they turn up on time and have enough physical ability to catch the burglars and put them in jail. If however 2 fat female officers and a little skinny 21 year old boy turn up and cant deal with the situation, what use are they? They are totally and completely useless.
Catch them yes, but no prison space means a slap on the wrist and f*ck off. The powers that be like telling people that if you you do not send your kids to school, you will go to jail f*ck me we do not send kiddie tamppers to jail as we have not got the space.
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i'm already tracked at work....

the only difference is they track the lorry, not me, but it constantly keeps in touch with the mainframe so that they can update job status, eta's and delivery info...
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Brit....the filth won't turn up if you're being burgled. They'll arrive 4 days later to take a statement.
Unless, you smash fukc out the burglar then they'll turn up immediately to arrest you....
If it wasn't so pathetic it'd make you laugh. But it is true of the way the whole justice system works today, unfotunately,.
I for one would rather go back to the days when a copper gave you a clip round the ear for fcuking about. Not like today, where a hoodie can sue if touched, which is why the filth are useless, and target orientated.
Years ago, people wanted to be old bill to make a differnce.
Now it's just a pay cheque.
Had been burgeled 3 times, the last two they really did take 4 days to come take a statment.
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i'm already tracked at work....

the only difference is they track the lorry, not me, but it constantly keeps in touch with the mainframe so that they can update job status, eta's and delivery info...
HAHAHAHAHA not suprised slamdog if you look like your avatar pic;)
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