ARNIE

boxing is a different game in america the money is higher and this dictates who fights who! but if cazzaghe got the jones fight when jones was at the top of his game then i think joe would have lost!
i think in the last 4-5 years joe has become the better fighter,before he seemed a little soft didnt have the heart that he's got now.

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ARNIE

i agree with this,joes good but hasnt had to beat the best to be called the best, look at his career not all box office fights some were downright boring.

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robdog

There is perhaps an argument there but i think because Flyod has gone up so many weights and has done it the hard way by taking on the best at those weights barring Cotto i think he gets it for me plus hes still yet to loose.

Who i would rather watch is a different matter as give me a mexican or pacquiao any day of the week lol but as i said in my post above credit where credit is due to Floyd.

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I give Floyd all the credit in the world, he is the real deal. In the same way Sugar Ray Leonard was. Leonard waited for Hagler to get old, came out of retirement, and stole the decision. Leonard did things the "smart" way. And he achieved greatness. Floyd didn't face the best at Light Welter, he lured Hatton up to Welter after having seen him against Collazo. At Welterweight he is yet to take on Cotto as you say, and also Mosely. I'm not saying he won't beat them, but he hasn't yet. Beating DeLaHoya was impressive though(as he is naturally bigger and world-class).

Then we have fighters like Hagler, Duran, Pacqiuao, and even David Haye. These guys didn't have the glamour/pulling power on the way up to be protected (except Haye who to his credit refused it), and once they became champions they still didn't cherry-pick opponents. They looked for the other best fighters and took them out, they cleaned up their divisions. Using Pacquiao as an example, he's fought and beaten every other great fighter in or near his division.

What seperates the fighters on the second list, from those on the first, is that they are Warriors. And I'm always gonna be biased towards a warrior, when it comes to the p4p list,,because they deserve it.

Golden Man

sORRY ROBDOG BUT HATTON DOESNT COME FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES HE COMES STRAIGHT AT you hence being a pressure fighter.To come at somebody from different angles means you have lateral movement I aint seen hatton do that yet.Hatton beats people due to power pressure..

True mayweather throughs punches but you can guarantee one of those punches has some dig behind them ask hatton.

I am realistic was a past sport and in my eyes boxing aint the same say in the eubank era you can only go of wins rather than who people have thought and to me mayweather and calzaghe have thought the best but I just like calzaghe(british bit patrotism true).

Anyway hope calzaghe wins as having watched a few bhop interviews he is a dumb jackass..no a dump back tracking jack ass who's comments were racist and the thing about the cold christ 6-8minutes of bitching and repeating himselve "brain like a fish" or ignorant thicko.Anyway he's going to lose

robdog

Mate you havent seen Hattons lateral movement?? How does he get those digs in to the floating rib then that hes famous for? Obviously you have never seen him train.

Im not saynig he has amazing movement and yes he is a pressure fighter but he has decent lateral movement hence all the body digs which he gets in.

Hatton is a come forward fighter but hes no way one dimensional.

As for Mayweather yes he has a dig but you hit any fighter in the sweet spot they are going down. Mayweather is not known as a knock out artist at all.

Wins only mean something lb for lb wise if your beating a decent fighter, wins for wins sake mean nothing imo.

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robdog

You make some good points mate and i agree and as i say id much rather watch a warrior than a dance around boxer but i stil think Mayweather will beat whoever is put infront of him.

IMO his last fight with ODLH was very close but ill bet money on the fact that Floyd will win by a bigger margin this time.

I rekon Hagler beat Leonard in that fight but sugar got the decision.

Haye although a decent fighter will get stopped by Macaranelli in March as i think he can dig a bit deeper when it matters but will shall see im looking forward to it.

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Golden Man

I do hope that as calzaghe is going to america he doesnt get a biased manu u/liverpool footy game i love floyd ref or it could sway and spoil the fight

robdog

If its close then i think Hopkins will get it as thats just the way it is but imo Calzaghe will TKO him or win on points with a wide margin.

Im not bothered if the ref is an i love floyd ref as long as he aint an i love Hopkins lmao!!!

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Golden Man

I think the ref from my home/well before i moved to plymouth should be the referee

Britbb

What i will give to bhop though is he is a great fighter, that cant be disputed, i forgot to add that he beat (ko) glen johnson at middleweight, yet johnson beat roy jones at light heavy a couple years later.

To see bhop vs calzaghe will be great, i think joe will win, i think if joe really has his head screwed on and concentration tight then he has the potential to dominate against hopkins. Its just because of the difference in their styles.

If the two fighters are totally prepared then we will see a joe c win in my opinion but a tricky fight, with calzaghe pulling off some great combos but having his rythym disrupted by bhop.

The real test wouldve been calzaghe vs jones 6-8 years back, but it never happened.

Jones has to beat taylor in his next fight to put himself as a contender against joe calzaghe.

If calzaghe can beat hopkins, then pavlik and finally jones, then the americans have no excuse, no if's, no but's, they ARE FORCED to accept that joe calzaghe is pure class, better than any of their fighters!

The stage is set for joe's legacy to be completed, there are some v good fighters around at the moment and joe is a big money fight now, so he can offer plenty of money to the table to fight these guys...the deals can be done. Joe was continuosly calling taylor and bhop out (before taylor got beaten twice by pavlik, now theres no point joe fighting taylor, he should fight pavlik). Hopkins has stepped upto the challenge and joe will step up to the plate to match him in the usa. The fights have come at the perfect time for joe, if warren can make them happen (and i think he can) then joe can end his carreer (if he wins them which i think he can) as having an unbeatem legacy spanning over a decade and defeating some really class names (if he does) such as roy jones, chris eubank, bernard hopkins, kelly pavlik, jeff lacy, mikel kessler...those names have all been rated great at one time or another and if warren can set up the final couple of fights for joe and joe can beat those fighters (he has the ability to do so) then joe's legacy will be complete!

If that happens, then arguably greatest supermiddle weight boxer EVER.

It will please me so much because the american boxing fans are always so anti-uk boxers, i wanna see joe go over there and run rings around hopkins.

Ollie B

Whos watching it? What time is it on? I cant wait! Go joe!!

robdog

I think the fight starts at 3am mate.

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Ollie B

3am OMG!!! i would struggle to stay up

tony 33

not many brits won on american soil,,,,minter,lewis to name a few
,,it takes something spesh to do it.i like joe never big headed in his career,all yanks are gobs on legs ,more so when fighting brits its in there blood,am hoping joe will shut him up but even if he does they will just use the age thing to play down his win(hopkins is past his best,he would have beat him in his hayday etc...)so why go in the square ring with him??
COME ON JOE!!