jw007

True and not true lol

The job i do (computer aided design) i could have worked up from an apprenticeship etc etc, but i went to uni had a laugh,didnt work amazingly hard for a few years, met some good people then bypassed all that sh1te that apprentices have to do and went straight in at a good level.

depends what you want, but you can usually get there several ways if driven enough

TaintedSoul

Then down the line. Two people are interviewed with simliar experience and they might favour the chap with paper behind him?

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buchanan

how long you been in though NCO? i left my job (electrician) and joined para reg after sep11, droped over £20,000! in salary though, only done my 3 years.

no NCO is paid enough! there were guys in my battalion that after 9 years were still full screws! 25k per annum.

BBWarehouse

Depends on how you work it out.

Mean average is GDP per capita...probably...which would be 20k-ish.

Modal average is probably lower. 1% will earn 100k plus, 7% will earn nothing (i.e. on dole, housewife etc.), vast majority are probably 15-25.

Lots of age variences too - your statistical income peak is around your early to mid 40's, where quite a few people earn 35k-40k. In your 20's, most earn fek all. After 50, your liklihood of promotion is diminished, so earnings tend to stay the same from 45 on.

Also worth thinking about the self employed. If you own a business...you may pay yourself sod all in salary, but have your company pay all your expenses (petrol, meals, other stuff), thus you're income is not really your income, it's your income plus expenses plus dividend payments ("unearned income"), plus whatever else.

That's actually something to consider in general. I know a few people who have no "job", but earn loads through capital gains on investments they hold. Annually, they might state a small income (for them), and massive capital gains on asset sales - which is what they use to live off.

Incomes not so easy to find. For 80% of the population, I'd guess the average is around 20k.

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Incredible Bulk

i went the apprentice route for the same job, i am a mechanical engineer using Inventor/CAD/SolidWorks...

Uni students that come here have feck all experiance with real design and take a few years to get 'grounded' in the company... I started on the bottom rung and have worked my way up from 7.5k a year to £22.5k.

Still on a crap wage but its going up every year... a uni graduate comes in on £19k

Sadly apprentices are not valued until they leave the company and you join another as you will always be labelled as the 'apprentice'

chrismac

Just under £35k

VOIP Engineer

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borostu82

Customer service engineer in a data center...25k

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Mrdaveyk

currently well under £3000 (student hehe)

but ive had a change of career and focus of mind, so if i land this process operator job on Chevron i could soon be looking above £40k

god i hope i get it, really need to get my own place now, having my brother pester me to make time to train with him, and then not show up because hes in the pub really is a downer, anyway thats another future rant that will eventually end up on here

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