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Old 21-01-2008, 10:59 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I would never consider the army with the state of our foreign policy right now.

The men who are out there are brave, no doubting that, and i bet it is very scary what they are doing. I'd be ****ting myself, i know that for sure, and if you weren't you'd be one big liar!


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Old 22-01-2008, 12:05 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I;m an ex squadie with active service in various theaters, would I recommend anyone joining up, as long as you go in fully aware of the true facts then why not, but what are the true facts?

If you get injured you will get very little help, you will see this is a big thing on the news at the moment, but basically you get sweet fa so make sure you have a good family.

Are you mentaly strong, this is the biggest factor IMO having your best mates brains blown over your face is not good, I personally don't think I'll ever get over some of the things that I saw and did, once again you'll get no help.

Don't ever ever rely on your senior officers for being the proffesional heros that they try and portay themselves to be, senior officers are yes men with no back bone who play politics with your life, there is a few who will stand up but these people tend to do it once their career is near the end. These people cost lives and there is nothing the men on the ground can do about it.

The kit is cheap rubbish which some dog in the MOD has procured through some lunch meeting with some dodgy supplier with brown envelopes, FFS even the rations issued in the gulf are so inadequet for the enviroment that they are a joke.

If a government wants to send these people to war they have the responsibility to ensure that they take every measure to ensure that these guys have the best from chain of command right down to life time support upon leaving. But this will never happen all the time people sign up.

Anyway, rant over but think long and hard before you sign.

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Old 22-01-2008, 12:35 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Good post there Harry.

I am against the war, but i think if we are to goto war, we should go there, with good arms, good equipment and WIN it. Not send out little troops, with shoddy equipment and get bogged down like we are now.

What you are saying is what most people already know, and something needs to be done about it.

Maybe if our government wasn't spending so much on the war overseas, they could spend it on better equipment and better care for our veterans at home, defending our own borders.
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Old 22-01-2008, 12:58 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I tried, aiming for Paras but was rejected on medical grounds. I know you get treated like ****, paid like **** and when all is said and done no one thanks you but dammit I wanted in. Only thing that bothers me is the blokes who end up badly maimed and are put aside like an unwanted toy, neglected and preferred forgotten. I would hate nothing more than to be a burden in that way.

My mate is in, not 100% but I think he's going REME after CMS. I'm envious but glad that at least he is getting to do something that, for now, he aspires.

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Old 22-01-2008, 01:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
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This war will go on for years to come if it isn't stopped by people who can take action to stop it.

Some people at the very top and making alot of money from this war, and they don't want it to end too soon.
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Old 22-01-2008, 09:24 AM   #21 (permalink)
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my brother in law did 22 years, 3 tours of NI (got blown up there once) and a few other places,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and loved every minute of it

a few of the guys in army are posted over here at the NATO base.........here its quite a cushy number , but they all may have to go off to war zones, and that seems to be a bit daunting for some, for others here its their last posting so back to uk then off to civvy street

when i was younger i wanted to join up, i didnt and i am glad of it,can take orders, i question things too much

but they had national service here (slightly different i know) but when it was here the people i knew that went certainly came back better people and now there is no national service, crime etc amongst that age group of people has gone up
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Old 22-01-2008, 10:26 AM   #22 (permalink)
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ive been accepted into RMA Sandhusrt in september and have passed my Para poc (potential officer course), cant wait, your 27 ey??your a bit old arnt you?having said that- the legion takes men up to the age of 40...if they are fit enough
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Old 22-01-2008, 10:30 AM   #23 (permalink)
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If you boys want a good read, my uncle is ex sas and has a few books- his latetst in "fighting for queen and country" Nigel Ely. its honestly a good read and gives a bloody account of 2 paras role in the Falklands, NI and a bit of mercenary work in Africa
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Thanks for all the input so far guys, haven't had a chance to read all as I am at work but will do later


And errrr thanks DaPs for hijacking ANOTHER thread...
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Good luck if it's what you decide to do. I was looking for a career in the army but ended up in IT after dropping out of a course at uni. Now I think I'm glad I didn't join. Unfortunately soldiers are just political pawns. And they're not very well cared for pawns, either.

That said, I have huge respect for all of our armed forces.
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my bro was 1 para mortars for 6 years,two guys on watch at work ex 45 commando,and pal when we were kids is c.s.m in black watch our local regiment.he retires this year -at 40 with lump sum and index linked pension, meanwhile i will be doing another 19years before i retire. when in iraq he lost 3 from the regiment,my bro knows some guys who were killed iraq and private work mercenaries who got killed too,there are risks but yiou can only do it now,i bought maself out as was homesick as a kid-regret iit now would go if i could but too old now(i know thats easy to say) but true- this is best time to be a soldier i think when i joined and all my mates and bro were in al you did was belfast and south armagh-with hands tied by rules of engage ment, now you get to do what youre trained to-watch full metal jacket---guy in chopper--get some get some--!
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My dad actually did 25 years in the RAF and he has done VERY well out if it.

That is always an option...


...or even the Navy, but my balls don't hang low enough...
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I just left last year, I enjoyed my time in but after 7 years decieded I had had enough. Have you visited your local carrers office? The Army has changed A LOT over the past decade with a lot of focus put on the ethos "work hard-work harder" instead of "work hard-play hard" due to manning shortages. But if you do join up you will have many opportunities to Travel, (be it seeing the ar$e end of the world mostly) participate in adventre training, sports, and alot more. What corps/regt were you thinking of joining?
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I just left last year, I enjoyed my time in but after 7 years decieded I had had enough. Have you visited your local carrers office? The Army has changed A LOT over the past decade with a lot of focus put on the ethos "work hard-work harder" instead of "work hard-play hard" due to manning shortages. But if you do join up you will have many opportunities to Travel, (be it seeing the ar$e end of the world mostly) participate in adventre training, sports, and alot more. What corps/regt were you thinking of joining?
You didn't have to go far for selection then.
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