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Old 02-08-2007, 03:53 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Thats OK then cos I have an illness that I'm not a granite monster of ripped sinewy muscle violence

However Im making good progress with my current medication soon I'll be rid of this debilatating disease.
I notice I seem to loose strength and muscle when off my meds. My doctor says I might have to carry on for a few more years untill I can maintain a solid 18stone foundation without them!
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Old 02-08-2007, 03:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Tom I have no ill feelings towards the individual who uses steroids. Ultimately it's their own chioce.
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:01 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Thats OK then cos I have an illness that I'm not a granite monster of ripped sinewy muscle violence

However Im making good progress with my current medication soon I'll be rid of this debilatating disease.
Damn I have a really bad case of that, what medication do you use?

Iv'e been using marijuana and pizza?
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I'm not against steroids for medical reasons. I just don't think they are worth taking so you can make your body look better.
My grandfather has got a shoulder injury and is in physio now and if that does not work he will have to try a steroid for recuperation. My oppinion has always been unanimous even before hearing my grandfather's oppinion. Steve Reves had a great physique without the aid of steroids with only 3 days ae week training.
Where did you get your information from that steve reeves never used steroids???? its documented that even as early as 1936 in the berlin olympics testosterone preperations were given to athletes to improve performance. And by the 1940s steroid use amongst athletes were rife.
So how do you know he never used them. Im sure most natural trainers will attest that even given todays advanced supplementation and knowledge its pretty hard if not nigh on impossible to obtain the physique that he had.

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Iv'e been using marijuana and pizza?
LOL and how's that working for you... Get all the calories you need but forget to go to the gym?
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I'm not against them for medical reasons.
Suppose i suffered from Bigarexia - The Opposite of Anorexia, they prescibe drugs to prevent anorexia for medical reasons, so why cant they prescibe me drugs like aas to help with my bigarexia, clearly for medical purposes only!
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they were using steroids when jesus was a boy,did you see the size of goliath compared to david,a clean cut case i think.
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Where did you get your information from that steve reeves never used steroids???? its documented that even as early as 1936 in the berlin olympics testosterone preperations were given to athletes to improve performance. And by the 1940s steroid use amongst athletes were rife.
So how do you know he never used them. Im sure most natural trainers will attest that even given todays advanced supplementation and knowledge its pretty hard if not nigh on impossible to obtain the physique that he had.

http://anabolicsteroidsinsports.com/...orthistory.pdf
He said it ina magazine article. I think it was a muscle and fitness magazine.
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He said it ina magazine article. I think it was a muscle and fitness magazine.
Oh well, it must be true then!
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How far can the human phsyique go naturally? Has anybody got a picture of sonmebody 100% natural with a high concentration of muscle. Personally I don't see the point in using steroids for enhancing the apperence. If you want a good body why not work for is genuinely?

Nobody really knows how far the human body can go naturally as there have never been any scientific tests done in mainstream science on it. But suffice to say it is a lot further than most people will give it credit for. The trick is to 100% focus 100% of the time, perfect diet, training, rest, sleep, recovery methods etc etc etc...

I work night shifts and I was wondering is the sleep in the day the same quality as sleep in the night? I dont think so. I can sleep less hours at night and feel more fresh then if I slept more hours in the day. The night is the blanket of sleep, the body is ment to sleep at night. What do you guys think? Any tips for night work sleep?

Working nights suck, used to do them myself, the only thing you can do is to keep the bedroom as dark as possible to minmic nightime, wear an darkened eye mask if possible. As an when you can still try to get as much sunlight as possible when you are awake..

I am planing to stick to a strict diet and training regime to see what changes can be made within a month. My main goal is to gain strenghth and improve my fitness. I would also like to los fat around my abdomen. I want toi gain more energy. For this I need to increse my metabolisim right?Any suggestions. I'm still tweaking my routine.


Give yourself 2-3 months to see what the changes are, keep diet clean and start doing some cardio aswell as your weight..
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If your grandfather despises steroids, if god forbid he ever got ill then your telling me if steroids were prescribed by the doctor to make him better he would refuse them, given that his feelings are so strong, just as jehovas witnesses are "supposed" to refuse blood transfusions??
Not quite the same is it?
Believe the debate was about steroids in SPORT, as compared to being administered steroids for medical reasons.

Even then, the word "steroid" used in the medical profession (where you may be administered them for an illness) will comprise of a totally different cocktail of drugs to the types used in Sport for anabolic gains.
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He said it ina magazine article. I think it was a muscle and fitness magazine.
I watched Lee Haneys workout video a few years back and in his unique southern drawl he said "I dont use anabolic steroids or any such chemicals"............... And i for one believe him:crazy:
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each to their own!, guys i know give respect to blokes who train natural and visa versa, i agree that a decent foundation form natural for a few years is ideal -then if an individual wants gains more than are forthcoming form sound diet and training then its their decision to do gear or not,problem is thats when folk start saying, looks good but is he on gear despite fact of hard training for years without.I believe a short boost cycle periodically with appropraite pct may be the ideal for a lot of guys when they hit a platue or are stale
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