Nine Pack

Being a self confessed coffee addict, we are having a full on coffee shop along with the protein bar which will also do smoothies & fresh juice.

But 'free'?.............. The prices will be very reasonable but it has to be a source of revenue for us.

We have got yet another viewing on a beautiful property in Cheadle tomorrow evening, easily the nicest one we have seen to date. We also have one shortlisted in Stockport near the pyramid & are negotiating with the agents & owners on the extent of refurb we would need. I have some reservations about the parking but we will consider it carefully before we make any final decisions. I'll update tomorrow after the viewing in Cheadle.

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Ninepack good journal, just one little piece of advice for you and that is before signing any contracts make sure you can get change of use on your premises !

The wife and me tried to set up a gym in our area and the local council had a strict policy on change of use from retail/industrial to leisure mate.

Its a major factor in any process you will follow or make, as we found it so frustrating, found the building, negotiated the rent and had already bought a load of good equipment. No change of use killed it!

Hope the above helps.
Good luck and keep going you will succeed mate.

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Thanks for that, this is why we are finding the property side easily the hardest & most frustrating process of all. We have seen a couple of suitable properties but the change of use was not allowed, so we just have to keep plugging away. I absolutely will not quit and refuse to let the red tape stop us. It all depends on how you approach the local authority regarding the change of use. I don't want to give too much away, but if you just say 'we want to open' a gym/health club' then you are going to come against some resistance but there's certain key words & phrases that seem to push the right buttons with the council so it's sometimes a matter of spin.

It's all fun.............

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LOL Nine PAck for Prime Minister i would vote for you pal

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Well the property in Cheadle was as expected, stunning interior, plenty of parking. Just one problem, it's tucked away at the back of an industrial estate down a one track lane with no lighting. Fine in the summer months, but I imagine female members would feel uneasy driving down a pitch black one track lane surrounded by trees in the winter evenings. I would not like my wife to be doing that so we have had to say no to that one. There is still the one in Stockport near the pyramid but as I said earlier, I have reservations about the parking so I think we may be back to the drawing board as regards the building.

This process is driving me mad but I refuse to quit as this is what I really want to do long term.

Bulldog, compliments ain't going to make me go easier on you in the next session you know! Anyway, I'd make a terrible politician, I'd go power mad & end up getting assasinated.

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Keep banging away at it mate, the right venue wil crop up eventually.

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Nine Pack

The reservations we had about the stockport property are now academic. I got a call from the estate agent earlier to say the owner had let it out to someone who did'nt need a refurb on the building. Ho hum, back to the drawing board............

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best of luck with it all ninepack, i hope to oneday open my gym so its been a bit of an eye opener reading this thread, a couple of things i hadnt even thought about, still, hopefully in a few years......

anyway the right place will turn up and you'll be glad you hadnt jumped in on one of these other places!

Nine Pack

Sorry the journal has been quiet, there's little to tell other than the usual daily searching the net & doing preliminary viewings. Had a look at a few in Bury yesterday as Paul seemed to think it was a good location. I know the area well as I used to live round there, but it's the other side of manchester to where I had originally planned so I'm not sure. I'll have a chat with Paul later & carry on looking in the areas we originally planned to open.

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Just PM'd you 9pack before I read this... hope you find a location.
It is soooo hard to but location is everything.

Is there absolutly no chance of getting the premises built? Steel structure type place like fitness firsts?

Another suggestion... have a think about renting a room out to a beauty therapist.
Covering Nail, UV tanning, spray tanning, beauty, waxing, massage and sports massage (not physio).
Male grooming could be pushed, the market is opening up which I failed to exploit in my current salon as I didn't want my GF doing men but now we have staff who are OK with it, next salon it worth a punt.
For the ladies they will enjoy the stress relief from working out, into a sauna and onto a full boy massage and maybe a set of nails.

As said in PM... gimmie a shout if you need help sh!t shifting

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John,
We may well be sub letting one of the studios, and the therapy clinic. Once we are sure of the exact type of club it will be (remember, even we can't be sure till we have the membership base built up), we will consider something like you suggested. I wouldn't want to have someone go to the trouble of setting up there & then have the place turnn out to be just an upmarket BBing gym with no client base for them to work from.

I know it sounds odd, us not being 100% sure of what type of gym it will be, but I think if you decide that it's definetely got to be a certain type of place, you may end up investing in equipment & services that are not in demand once you have your members. I truly believe that it's your members that ultimately dictate the type of club it ends up being. I do have a general idea of how it will be, but I will let it evolve as it needs to, provided it is moving in a commercially viable direction and it's reputation is good. I won't allow it to become a hardcore BBers gym with sawdust on the floor to soak up the blood, but we may well end up attracting some serious athletes due to the quality of the equipment we will have, and of course the expertise of the staff...

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Paul, any chance of you revealing the name yet

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Sorry bud, no can do. Well I suppose I could, but then I'd have to kill you & there's so many forms you have to fill in down the station once you've done that.

Seriously though, I have the company name registered & the logo is sorted. I showed it to Supercell the other week for his opinion & I think he likes it. As soon as it has been registered as a trademark I'll be shouting it from the rooftops I can assure you.

We are viewing another building tomorrow that I stumbled accross purely by accident the other day whilst out on a delivery. It already has a business operating in the complex that is classed as leisure (a martial arts place) so we ought not have any opposition on the change of use, this bodes well. Plenty of parking and it's very close to the M60 ring road. Hope it's not a bomb site inside but it looks ok from the outside. Keep watching....

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Good luck mate and keep us posted yeh!

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Nine Pack

So, a quick update on the viewing. The bit we had a quick look at last week was fine (the 1st floor section), but on the formal viewing on tuesday it turned out that the ground floor area was a bomb site, and I mean it was beyond awful. It would need a good £50K spending on it just to get it half presentable so we walked away.

As ever with these things though there may be a silver lining. The estate agent suggested a large mill complex in Bredbury that I had considered in the early stages but was originally told the units I enquired about were taken. There are some other ones of just over 30,000 sq feet that they can split for us to make a 15,000 sq foot unit. This mill is in a prime area, and already has many public access businesses operating there already (as opposed to being just industrial), and a few of them leisure type businesses. It's got acres of secure floodlit parking and we are told that the mill is the best kept in the area. All the floors, walls & ceilings are clean, windows & frames are immaculate, lifts all over the place (a massive saving on DDA compliance work) so we can save a ton on any refurb work. All we would have to do is install studios, changing rooms, reception, lay the flooring & paint as required. We have a formal viewing on tuesday of next week but will go & have a quick mooch around today. Fingers crossed....

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