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Old 26-02-2008, 11:04 AM   #496 (permalink)
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Thanks, this is something we have considered & will be introducing something along these lines after a while. Initially though, just getting the gym up & running is a lot to manage. The insurance would also quadruple if we allow minors in, then we have to get everyone working there CRB checked, then there's regulations on the ratio of girls/boys which govern the gender of the instructors so we may have to take on extra staff. It's a bit of a minefield so I'd rather we did that when we can concentrate on it & do the job properly, i.e when everything else in the gym is running smoothly.
You could do what we do - use John Ansell and Partners for insurance - allows 13 and up in.
Address the ratios by having their teachers attend in the appropriate numbers - the teachers effectively look after the pupils; they just happen to be in your facility.

It's the same as when schools have "field trips" - no need for the recipient to CRB check etc as the schools provide the administration and guidance. You're effectively just a destination.
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Old 26-02-2008, 11:14 AM   #497 (permalink)
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You could do what we do - use John Ansell and Partners for insurance - allows 13 and up in.
Address the ratios by having their teachers attend in the appropriate numbers - the teachers effectively look after the pupils; they just happen to be in your facility.

It's the same as when schools have "field trips" - no need for the recipient to CRB check etc as the schools provide the administration and guidance. You're effectively just a destination.
As ever, a font of knowledge there bud. Thanks for that. I'll have a chat with John later & we'll see if our insurer will allow the same. We have effectively set the policy up already so I'll see if it will allow for changes to the lower age limit.

P.S, jeez your arms are looking big now. We'll be able to keep them that big when you do a show next time.
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Re: Ninepack's new Gym Journal

Just read the whole thread, phew!!! what a read. Good luck mate. Oh btw, John Hodgson came to a semminar at our Gym, I belive hes good freinds with thy guy who owns our Gym in Llandudno, his name is Ian Wells, you know him?
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Just read the whole thread, phew!!! what a read. Good luck mate. Oh btw, John Hodgson came to a semminar at our Gym, I belive hes good freinds with thy guy who owns our Gym in Llandudno, his name is Ian Wells, you know him?
I don't personally know him but John certainly does. He's a good friend of Ian's.
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What's the gym URL again mate? Some people in Oldham looking for somewhere decent to train....

Got your text - great news mate.

As for my arms, they'll be an inch bigger than that pic by the time I come to plague you again for your pre-comp expertise. Guarantee it.
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Webby address is on my signature bud. See you soon & you can show me how not to get beaten up!
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Old 29-02-2008, 09:48 AM   #503 (permalink)
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Thanks DB. It's only an 'opening soon' website at the moment & as soon as we open we'll have more features on there, pics of the gym, timetable of classes etc.
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Yes totally agree looks awsome Paul I think it will be a real hit..I just wish there was a gym like that where I live!!! keep up the good work.
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Just over a week to go then all hell breaks loose. We attend the council planning committee meeting on March 18th so if all goes well (and it will) we begin the building work on the 19th & start signing the founder members up. I'll update on the 19th if not before.
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I will get hold of those Fire safety plans for you asap mate, my buddy said he may even pop up and have a proper nosey around
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Just got this e mail from our planning consultant today:

Having spoken to the case officer this morning for an update, I am informed that the application is no longer going to the planning committee on 18 March 2008 as planned. Basically, the agenda for this committee has now closed and the comments of the Planning Policy Officer (Chris ****: 01706 ******) are still awaited. I understand that Mr **** has been off on special leave for a couple of weeks but is due back this week.

This means that the application will now go to the committee on 15 April (6:15pm at the town hall). I will, however, try to speak to the policy officer when he returns this week as his comments are fundamental to the recommendation.


So I sent back a rant e mail to which he replied:

Agree with all of what you say Paul. It is sadly all too often the case that local authority planning officers fail to recognise the real financial issues regarding planning applications, and that their delays in issuing a decision can cost thousands as you rightly say.

In this instance, the Planning Officer has confirmed that he has no objection to the proposal in any regard other than awaiting his Policy Officer’s (Chris ****) comments on the issue of addressing Policy EC2. Without these comments, the application is not complete and cannot be taken to the committee. I did not press Robin ******* on the nature of Chris **** “special leave” but clearly such absence must be something out of the ordinary. However, this does not justify the lack of a response in any way given that the application has been lodged since December last year.

I will see what I can do, but the Councillor will have the overriding power here as he is in effect the boss of the employees. Perhaps he can request that the application be taken to the committee as an emergency item?

So we have been in touch with the councillors who have been fully supportive of us all the way about it becoming an emergency item. Only time will tell now, but we may face another five week delay. Honestly, I feel physically sick & want to go on a k1lling spree.

We may decide to just press ahead with the build & open when the planning is granted as I cannot keep delaying the opening date or we risk losing credibility with the masses of people who have enquired about joining. Not to mention the contractors, equipment suppliers etc who are all scheduled to begin moving based on a March 18th decision date.

I'm going to sit in a quiet corner now & have an embolism. I tell you, if you ever really need a stomach ulcer, just submit a planning application to the council, bingo!
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Oh man, I feel for ya big man. I can't believe all the bureaucracy just to open up a gym? That is just silly.
I bet they can open up a donut shop with less resistance.

Paul, you are one of the most educated guys in bodybuilding that I know and maybe you should just write a book and make some serious money. Just a thought.
Man you are committed. If their is anything I can do (probably not) I am in your corner mate.
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Paul thats Sh*t

I know what its like as I work in the Local Council and they are slow as fcuk.

I've got to apply for change of use etc for my business when we set up and I'm dreading it.
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Thanks guys. The fun just never starts!

We have now made a solid decision to just get on with the building work as of next week & to hell with it. We are submitting the relevant building regs forms & plans so at least we can still open when we wanted to (or as near as makes no difference).

John, me, Scott & the other John (our long suffering contractors who we owe a huge debt of gratitude to) have been down at the unit most of the day & marked out all the areas for the studio, changing rooms, offices, coffee shop, drainage points etc. We got a lot done & are ready to begin the build next week. We just need the architects plans from the landlord to submit with the building regs forms & we can then crack on. We ain't stopping now, not for anyone!!

We have a great team on the building work & I even have a very dear friend of mine (who reads this board too, hi Neil!) coming down from all the way from Edinburgh to build us a stunning reception desk for the front of house. Neil is nothing short of an artist when it comes to wood. He's staying with us for a week & it will be great to be able to catch up properly instead of the odd brief meeting or phone call. Trouble is, I have to feed him all week & he's a big lad, but then of course he is, I did his diet & training!
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