JohnOvManc

I ended up paying my landlord solicitors fee's but I used it basically to blackmail them into sorting things out before we moved in like leaking roof, area of pavement that always flooded outside (slip hazard if frozen and you have to provide safe access and exit).

BUT there fee's were nowhere near that much.
Can not remember the exact figure but it would have been a couple of hundred or there about's and not significant enough for me to want it to hold things up.... there's no way I would pay nearly 2 GRAND!!!

Will they speak to you direct?
Tell them to you before you have any turnover taht amount is just not financially do-able.
If so ask them would they rather get a decent long term tenent like you or risk loosing time and rent on that sort of fee out of principle?
Landlords try and squeeze blood from a stone.

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Nine Pack

Thanks John, that helps confirm what we thought, that the fees they were quoting are ridiculous. They have since agreed to cap it at £1000+vat but I'm still not happy & we are insisting that both parties be responible only for thier own legal fees.
I have said the same to the estate agent as you did, do they really want to lose a long term tennant over a matter of £2k when they stand to get £400k from us over the lease period? I doubt very much that when push comes to shove that they'll let us walk, but like I say, we will walk if we have to. I absolutely will not be had over a barrell by these people. The commercial leasing arrangements always favour the landlord with very little allowance for the tennant. Domestic tenancy laws are quite different & I see no reason why the commercial side should be so heavily in favour of the landlord. We aren't asking for anything unreasonable.

I'm going to find out for exactly how long this unit has been stood empty. I know it's for at least six months, but I reckon it's been empty for a good 2 years or so, maybe more. I have an 'insider' who can tell me so I'll do some digging tomorrow. Either way, we are not taking any more bullsh1t on this as it's now become a matter of principle. We don't want anyone thinking we are pushovers.

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JohnOvManc

I just looked back at my 1st outgoings...
I actually paid £500, mine was also capped at that but it was plus VAT

You are right about the commercial landlords, they are nothing like private it surprised me that you had to sort your own wiring and internal plumbing LOL maybe a bit nieve of me there but it's a differant ball game.

I saved on my own legals as I had the lease read over and check by the Tameside Enterprise Center (Ridway Accociates) who help start ups (they are funded by the eauropean enterprise council).
But on something as big as you are doing it's better to have your own legal "team" you plan on sticking with I think.

The more you can find out the more ammunition you have, I'd like to see a breakdown of what's costing them so much to get the lease done even at £1000 - it's not like the intended use is anything really unusual.

A thousand is a gesture though, if they can drop it great but maybe you will be forced to meet half way... the location could be worth it and the time spent looking for another location etc.

If there's anything you want extra out of them now would be a good time to get it.

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Nine Pack

A quick update. Today was the day of reckoning for the landlords as we insisted on paying only our own legal fees or we would walk.

Long story short, we got what we wanted. I'll have a smug look on my face for a few hours then it's back to work.

Anyone considering a commercial lease should never take it as red that the terms set out are set in stone. Anything is negotiable.

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leeston

great stuff Paul. That has appeared to be the highest hurdle which you have now got over.

Onwards and upwards!!

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JohnOvManc

Played the big boys at there own game and won... you should be proud, that's £2056.25 saved just by pushing it!!!
Spin on that landlords LOL

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Count down to Grand Opening. I want to be there bro.

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Nine Pack

It is quite satisfying when you get a result like that. I'm not going to rest on my laurels though, plenty of negotiations to go yet I imagine.

The website is still under development, but I'll let you all know as soon as it's up.

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squat_this

That's great news...the money saved there can go towards the USA air-fares to get Hackskii & co over!!!

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Nine Pack

Ok then, here goes, I guess you've been patient enough. This is our website currently in development by Liz, the wife of my star client, Welly, a UK-M board member. She's put up with a lot of e mails from me with suggestions here & there so I can't begin to thank her enough for the help she's giving us. Once the gym is open, the gallery images will have our actual machines pictured in the gym rather than library pics of Hammer Strength stuff.

The links on the homepage are not all working fully yet as I need to come up with some more stuff for Liz. Soon we'll be having a profile for each the team of directors, PT's & then any staff we take on so that people can see who they'll be meeting at the place.

Hopefully we will see the lease complete inside of the next month so we can then move in & get building the reception, changing rooms, studios etc.

www.evolutionphysicalexcellence.com

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ah24

Looking bloody good mate!!
The name is good to, i see why you wanted to keep that quiet - along with the logo which go hand in hand obviously.

Maybe one day my picture will be up there as one of the PT's!

Nine Pack

The commute from crawley would be a b1tch. You may need to relocate a few miles!

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leeston

f-r-a-n-c-h-i-s-e!!!!

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Nine Pack

Watch this space....................

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