For those with higher than normal blood pressure. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

**hackskii** · 14-04-2004, 02:23 AM

I know gear raises blood pressure and for those who go on long cycles here is a read me for blood pressure. I have heard tren can raise it quite high and so can water retention.
But a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

I was reading on another board about a guy that had kidney problems with using trenbolone. Hey I bring this up because the kidneys dont repair them selves like the liver. Kidney's once damaged are damaged for life. I care about you guys and information is power.
Cheers M8's

This Is Your Brain with High Blood Pressure

Of all the risk factors for having a stroke, or brain attack, high blood pressure tops the list. In fact, if you have hypertension, your risk of a stroke is anywhere from four to six times greater than it is for someone with normal blood pressure. Even mild high blood pressure in the high normal range is enough to increase your stroke risk. High blood pressure can also affect the way your brain works. Several long-term studies have shown that high blood pressure in middle age is linked to cognitive impairment in later life. A recent study has shown that among older adults, mild to moderate high blood pressure can start to impair thinking skills. The study compared a group of older adults with high blood pressure to another group of older adults with normal blood pressure. The hypertensive group did consistently worse on tests of thinking skills, suggesting that high blood pressure plays an important role in whether an older adult will go on to develop impaired mental abilities or dementia.

How can high blood pressure hurt my body?
Untreated high blood pressure can damage important parts of your body like your heart, brain, eyes and kidneys. This damage can lead to heart attacks, strokes and kidney failure.

How are high blood pressure and kidney disease related?
Some kidney diseases may cause high blood pressure, but more commonly, high blood pressure may cause kidney disease. The working units of the kidneys (called nephrons) are damaged after years of stress from the high pressure. Chronic kidney disease caused by high blood pressure is a leading cause of kidney failure, which requires dialysis or a kidney transplant to maintain life. If high blood pressure is controlled, however, your chances of developing chronic kidney disease and other complications can be reduced

High Blood Pressure and Kidneys: Ten Facts
High blood pressure is one of the most common problems that can severely harm the kidneys. Uncontrolled high blood pressure is the second leading cause of chronic kidney failure in the United States. Severe high blood pressure causes kidney malfunction over a relatively short period of time, but even mild forms of high blood pressure can damage kidneys over several years, with no symptoms evident until severe damage has already occurred.

At least 58 million Americans have elevated blood pressures requiring treatment with drugs or constant monitoring; about 15 percent are not even aware that they have high blood pressure.

Blood pressures of 140/90 or more are considered high for adults. For people age 65 or older blood pressures of 160/90 or more are considered high. High blood pressure should not be diagnosed on the basis of a single reading. Initial elevated readings should be confirmed on at least two follow-up visits.

In 90 percent of the cases, no specific cause is identified for high blood pressure. However,certain individuals have a greater risk of developing high blood pressure, such as older persons, people with a family history of high blood pressure, people who are overweight, and African Americans. High blood pressure is the leading cause of kidney failure among African Americans.

Elevated blood pressure often causes no symptoms at all, although some people may experience dizziness, headaches or nosebleeds. It is important to have regular checkups to detect high blood pressure and to follow the doctor's prescribed treatment faithfully if high blood pressure is diagnosed. Due to the success of national education programs, more than three of four Americans now have their blood pressured measured every six months.

High blood pressure can affect anyone at any age. Even children can have high blood pressure, although it is less common. Regular high blood pressure checkups should begin in childhood and continue throughout life.

High blood pressure and kidney disease are closely related. Uncontrolled or poorly controlled high blood pressure is the primary diagnosis for about 30 percent of the patients who have chronic kidney failure; it is second only to diabetes as a leading cause of kidney failure, which requires treatment with an artificial kidney machine (dialysis) or kidney transplantation to stay alive.

High blood pressure also is associated with higher risks of heart attacks and stroke. When high blood pressure is controlled, the risk of these complications is greatly reduced.

High blood pressure is a more serious problem among African Americans. Not only do more African Americans develop high blood pressure (it is twice as common among them as it is among whites), but they tend to develop earlier, more severe cases of the disease. This is related to the fact that more African Americans have strokes, heart failure and kidney failure. They have a six-fold higher incidence than whites of kidney failure related to high blood pressure.

Many effective drugs are available for treating high blood pressure. Scientific evidence also points to a key role for lifestyle changes such as weight loss and regular exercise in regulating blood pressure. In some cases, a healthier lifestyle may be sufficient to regulate blood pressure; in other instances, combining drug therapy with lifestyle changes may permit smaller doses of medicine to be used.

Newer drugs that are being developed to treat high blood pressure have fewer side effects. However, side effects reported for some of the drugs in use include fatigue, insomnia, increased frequency of urination, depression, drowsiness, dry mouth, nasal congestion, dizziness, headaches and decreased sexual function. Patients should report any side effects to their doctors who may be able to change to medicines that eliminate intolerable side effects.

**Great White** · 14-04-2004, 11:24 AM

Thanks Bro

Very informative post

**robdog** · 14-04-2004, 01:59 PM

[quote=hackskii]
But a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

very informative mate and the above quote is spot on

**hackskii** · 14-04-2004, 04:03 PM

I got kindof worried hearing about a guy (on another board) using tren and the high blood pressure jacked the kidneys up.
He said that his **** was foamy, like he was ****ing soap. He checked it out and was diagnosed with mild kidney failure due to high blood pressure.

T-man · 14-04-2004, 11:34 PM

My blood preassure was 140/80 (slightly high) last time I was at the docs and I get really bad headaches sometimes when the vains on my temples swell up like anacondas and it feels like my head is in a vice like in casino. I also normally get a few nose bleeds every day.
I have tried taking garlic, potassium and taurine and think they do help a bit as does a bit of light cardio like walking.

mrmasive · 30-10-2006, 01:24 PM

Bump for later lol

andye · 30-10-2006, 02:31 PM

my dad has real high blood pressure and is diabetic. docs have tried everything to get his blood pressure down to no avail.

he had a mild heart attack last year and has since had stents fitted to open up his arteries. he cant excersise and finds it hard to loose weight because of the insulin and the lack of being able to excersise.

hes stuck in abit of rut tbh and the docs dont seem to be any help.

i know this is nothing to do with steroids but i thought id add it none the less

**hackskii** · 30-10-2006, 04:13 PM

Here is a post from Swale on this subject. Although it is TRT related it still applies here:

Quote:

Originally posted by SWALE
Some men do hold a little water at first, because androgens cause the kidneys to retain sodium. As you know, sodium and calcium go hand-in-hand with respect to their actions at the kidney, and androgens also cause us to reabsorb calcium--hence the anti-osteoporotic qualities of TRT (this is why we counter-intuiitively administer a diuretic to treat hypercalcemia, as it flies in the face of "the solution to pollution is dilution" rule). So 24 hours is better than 5 or 6 here, too. The body will normalize sodium, so HTN (hypertension) is not usually a problem. In those patients with CHF (Congestive heart Failure) or chronic kidney disease, you may have to touch them with a little (extra) diuretic.

In fact, hypogonadism is strongly associated with HTN.

As long as you monitor (and treat, if necessary) elevated estrogen, edema will not be a problem.

BTW, correct monitoring and "tweaking" is not common to HRT medicine--and that is what we are working toward here!

14-04-2004, 02:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,671	For those with higher than normal blood pressure. I know gear raises blood pressure and for those who go on long cycles here is a read me for blood pressure. I have heard tren can raise it quite high and so can water retention. But a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. I was reading on another board about a guy that had kidney problems with using trenbolone. Hey I bring this up because the kidneys dont repair them selves like the liver. Kidney's once damaged are damaged for life. I care about you guys and information is power. Cheers M8's This Is Your Brain with High Blood Pressure Of all the risk factors for having a stroke, or brain attack, high blood pressure tops the list. In fact, if you have hypertension, your risk of a stroke is anywhere from four to six times greater than it is for someone with normal blood pressure. Even mild high blood pressure in the high normal range is enough to increase your stroke risk. High blood pressure can also affect the way your brain works. Several long-term studies have shown that high blood pressure in middle age is linked to cognitive impairment in later life. A recent study has shown that among older adults, mild to moderate high blood pressure can start to impair thinking skills. The study compared a group of older adults with high blood pressure to another group of older adults with normal blood pressure. The hypertensive group did consistently worse on tests of thinking skills, suggesting that high blood pressure plays an important role in whether an older adult will go on to develop impaired mental abilities or dementia. How can high blood pressure hurt my body? Untreated high blood pressure can damage important parts of your body like your heart, brain, eyes and kidneys. This damage can lead to heart attacks, strokes and kidney failure. How are high blood pressure and kidney disease related? Some kidney diseases may cause high blood pressure, but more commonly, high blood pressure may cause kidney disease. The working units of the kidneys (called nephrons) are damaged after years of stress from the high pressure. Chronic kidney disease caused by high blood pressure is a leading cause of kidney failure, which requires dialysis or a kidney transplant to maintain life. If high blood pressure is controlled, however, your chances of developing chronic kidney disease and other complications can be reduced High Blood Pressure and Kidneys: Ten Facts High blood pressure is one of the most common problems that can severely harm the kidneys. Uncontrolled high blood pressure is the second leading cause of chronic kidney failure in the United States. Severe high blood pressure causes kidney malfunction over a relatively short period of time, but even mild forms of high blood pressure can damage kidneys over several years, with no symptoms evident until severe damage has already occurred. At least 58 million Americans have elevated blood pressures requiring treatment with drugs or constant monitoring; about 15 percent are not even aware that they have high blood pressure. Blood pressures of 140/90 or more are considered high for adults. For people age 65 or older blood pressures of 160/90 or more are considered high. High blood pressure should not be diagnosed on the basis of a single reading. Initial elevated readings should be confirmed on at least two follow-up visits. In 90 percent of the cases, no specific cause is identified for high blood pressure. However,certain individuals have a greater risk of developing high blood pressure, such as older persons, people with a family history of high blood pressure, people who are overweight, and African Americans. High blood pressure is the leading cause of kidney failure among African Americans. Elevated blood pressure often causes no symptoms at all, although some people may experience dizziness, headaches or nosebleeds. It is important to have regular checkups to detect high blood pressure and to follow the doctor's prescribed treatment faithfully if high blood pressure is diagnosed. Due to the success of national education programs, more than three of four Americans now have their blood pressured measured every six months. High blood pressure can affect anyone at any age. Even children can have high blood pressure, although it is less common. Regular high blood pressure checkups should begin in childhood and continue throughout life. High blood pressure and kidney disease are closely related. Uncontrolled or poorly controlled high blood pressure is the primary diagnosis for about 30 percent of the patients who have chronic kidney failure; it is second only to diabetes as a leading cause of kidney failure, which requires treatment with an artificial kidney machine (dialysis) or kidney transplantation to stay alive. High blood pressure also is associated with higher risks of heart attacks and stroke. When high blood pressure is controlled, the risk of these complications is greatly reduced. High blood pressure is a more serious problem among African Americans. Not only do more African Americans develop high blood pressure (it is twice as common among them as it is among whites), but they tend to develop earlier, more severe cases of the disease. This is related to the fact that more African Americans have strokes, heart failure and kidney failure. They have a six-fold higher incidence than whites of kidney failure related to high blood pressure. Many effective drugs are available for treating high blood pressure. Scientific evidence also points to a key role for lifestyle changes such as weight loss and regular exercise in regulating blood pressure. In some cases, a healthier lifestyle may be sufficient to regulate blood pressure; in other instances, combining drug therapy with lifestyle changes may permit smaller doses of medicine to be used. Newer drugs that are being developed to treat high blood pressure have fewer side effects. However, side effects reported for some of the drugs in use include fatigue, insomnia, increased frequency of urination, depression, drowsiness, dry mouth, nasal congestion, dizziness, headaches and decreased sexual function. Patients should report any side effects to their doctors who may be able to change to medicines that eliminate intolerable side effects. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-04-2004, 11:24 AM	#2 (permalink)
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14-04-2004, 04:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,671	I got kindof worried hearing about a guy (on another board) using tren and the high blood pressure jacked the kidneys up. He said that his ** was foamy, like he was ing soap. He checked it out and was diagnosed with mild kidney failure due to high blood pressure. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott** To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-04-2004, 11:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
T-man Gym Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: England Posts: 253	My blood preassure was 140/80 (slightly high) last time I was at the docs and I get really bad headaches sometimes when the vains on my temples swell up like anacondas and it feels like my head is in a vice like in casino. I also normally get a few nose bleeds every day. I have tried taking garlic, potassium and taurine and think they do help a bit as does a bit of light cardio like walking. __________________ You can't grow without pain!

30-10-2006, 01:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
mrmasive Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 436	Bump for later lol __________________ "The greatest test of courage is to bear defeat without loosing heart" B:120 S:200 DL:230 @ 85kg

14-04-2004, 01:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
robdog Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Home!! Posts: 5,579	[quote=hackskii] But a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. very informative mate and the above quote is spot on

30-10-2006, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
andye nearly 15 stone! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: hartlepool, north east england Posts: 640	my dad has real high blood pressure and is diabetic. docs have tried everything to get his blood pressure down to no avail. he had a mild heart attack last year and has since had stents fitted to open up his arteries. he cant excersise and finds it hard to loose weight because of the insulin and the lack of being able to excersise. hes stuck in abit of rut tbh and the docs dont seem to be any help. i know this is nothing to do with steroids but i thought id add it none the less

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