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    government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/monitoring-...231042436.html

    Ministers are preparing a major expansion of the Government's powers to monitor the email exchanges and website visits of every person in the UK, it has been reported.
    Under legislation expected in next month's Queen's Speech, internet companies will be instructed to install hardware enabling GCHQ - the Government's electronic "listening" agency - to examine "on demand" any phone call made, text message and email sent, and website accessed in "real time", The Sunday Times reported.
    A previous attempt to introduce a similar law was abandoned by the former Labour government in 2006 in the face of fierce opposition.
    However, ministers believe it is essential that the police and security services have access to such communications data in order to tackle terrorism and protect the public.

    Although GCHQ would not be able to access the content of such communications without a warrant, the legislation would enable it to trace people individuals or groups are in contact with, and how often and for how long they are in communication.
    The Home Office confirmed that ministers were intending to legislate "as soon as parliamentary time allows".
    "It is vital that police and security services are able to obtain communications data in certain circumstances to investigate serious crime and terrorism and to protect the public.
    "We need to take action to maintain the continued availability of communications data as technology changes," a spokesman said.
    "Communications data includes time, duration and dialling numbers of a phone call, or an email address.
    "It does not include the content of any phone call or email and it is not the intention of Government to make changes to the existing legal basis for the interception of communications."


    all i can say is 'wow' if this is indeed going to happen...
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    like something out of the bourne identity that! gonna have to stop emailing picks of my c0ck out willy nilly then!
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Don't be so naive, this has been going on for years, it's just becoming such public knowledge that the government is having to admit to it.
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    even if this was true can always encrypt emails most clients have it build it
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharp161 View Post
    even if this was true can always encrypt emails most clients have it build it
    The government has a register of all available encryption algorithms, those it doesn't have it breaks, it ain't rocket science.
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    they can already do this
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
    The government has a register of all available encryption algorithms, those it doesn't have it breaks, it ain't rocket science.
    Nope, you can get algorithms that are so strong, it would take a computer billions of years to crack.

    http://www.articlesbase.com/technolo...t-5589892.html
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    to be fair, not too bothered. if they want to waste their time reading the daily emails i get from myprotein or bbw and me texting mates about going to the gym they can knock themselves out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain-splooge View Post
    to be fair, not too bothered. if they want to waste their time reading the daily emails i get from myprotein or bbw and me texting mates about going to the gym they can knock themselves out
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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dazzza View Post
    Nope, you can get algorithms that are so strong, it would take a computer billions of years to crack.

    http://www.articlesbase.com/technolo...t-5589892.html
    That's only half true buddy.

    Cryptography has many solutions to this problem. The scenario you've just explained only covers brute force attempts to break encryption, however there a huge amount more ways to break a cypher.

    Some types of encryption have known mathematical short cuts most are not known as the traditional ploy is for the CIA/GCHQ or whoever to publicly request these method is banned or illegal (and then lose) which then encourages criminals or enemies of the state to use them.

    Other ways including either paying a individual/company to put in a backdoor or even infiltrating a company and inserting a backdoor.

    One of the most famous stories about these methods was around the spectacular success of the CIA's infiltration of a company called Crypto AG.

    This link explains what happened http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

    And then there's quantum computing which most folk in the community believe the military have running that will essentially make all current encryption completely worthless.

    As for the April the 1st joke, it doesn't really matter anyway as all of this is academic given its been done for about 40 years now!

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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    How long ago did George Orwell warns us?

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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    England is turning into America now so it seems :/ They want to know what everyone is up to next thing you know every country will be like china cant do a dam thing on a computer :/

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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel View Post
    The government has a register of all available encryption algorithms, those it doesn't have it breaks, it ain't rocket science.
    citation needed mate

    Its literally impossible to store every algoithim, infact its impossible since many of them are generated randomly(or as randomly as a computer can generate) breaking algorithms is possible but requires an exponential amount of computing power.

    If some won is a known terrorist then i say read his mail, tap his phone and track his car, aslong as these powers are not abused...

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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    phone and email hacking has already been proven... it was major news not that long ago lmao.. its 100% possible, done, and on going

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    Re: government going too far now? i hope this is an April fool's joke!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt 1 View Post
    phone and email hacking has already been proven... it was major news not that long ago lmao.. its 100% possible, done, and on going
    Yeah, just watch 24 - they do it all the time!!!

 

 
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