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Old 24-08-2006, 05:27 PM   #61 (permalink)
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all will conform to the ladder theory
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This thread is providing a nice guy like myself much food for thought. Thanks guys!


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Oh man, this thread is cracking me up!

I feel really sorry for women now, and me. I wanted to carry on having sex with my future wife till i was in the ground too! And now i hear that she will be all dry and won't wanna anyway... :(

Are you SURE that's true Scott????????

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Are you SURE that's true Scott????????
Yah, but it depends alot on the woman.
Estrogen still gets produced, not at the same rate as before.
Menopause doesn't mean the end of estrogen though. your body stores estrogen in your body fat and your adrenal glands make estrogen too.

So yah for some this is true, I didnt say all as there are always exceptions to the rule and a woman on HRT wont be in this group.

Hey, dont feel bad. When testosterone declines you will lose the desire as well.
Depending on the man, ED is a way of life.

Not all libido issues with men are associated with low testosterone levels.
circulation is critical to the function of the heart and sexual organs, Dopamine deficiency, zinc deficiency, too little or too much estrogen, too much prolactin, weak levator ani muscles (penis muscles), medications, even thyroid has an effect on libido.
You might be in the same boat as her.

But HRT is available and more understood than ever before.
i suspect by the time you guys get my age, this will be a finely tuned practice.
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Old 24-08-2006, 08:20 PM   #63 (permalink)
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You might be in the same boat as her.
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Man, this is depressing. I had better quit being such a nice guy and start getting tenfold the action now whilst i still can!
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Old 24-08-2006, 09:39 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Man, this is depressing. I had better quit being such a nice guy and start getting tenfold the action now whilst i still can!
Ah, knowledge is power.
I am on my last pages of the book and he has some natural remedies that will possibly elevate lagging testosterone levels and a good little bit on vasodialators he suggests.

For erections.
He suggests flexing the kegal(sp) muscles in the penis when you are thinking about it. Said to fix 50% of ED problems (atrophied penis)

That and some Ginko Biloba, ginseng, L-Dope (this looks promising), along with zinc (natural aromatase inhibitor), and resvertrol to improve the liver P450 system.

Maybe I will take the time and type up some stuff out of the book.
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Ah, knowledge is power.
I am on my last pages of the book and he has some natural remedies that will possibly elevate lagging testosterone levels and a good little bit on vasodialators he suggests.

For erections.
He suggests flexing the kegal(sp) muscles in the penis when you are thinking about it. Said to fix 50% of ED problems (atrophied penis)

That and some Ginko Biloba, ginseng, L-Dope (this looks promising), along with zinc (natural aromatase inhibitor), and resvertrol to improve the liver P450 system.

Maybe I will take the time and type up some stuff out of the book.
I did someof those kegels for a few weeks ages ago. Never had a problem getting a boner or nothing but they are supposed to make your nob better working. Anyway I think they work because I kept getting boners and my pop shot was beter than a pornstars. Made me seem to get the urge more though so I gave up because I did not have a missus and getting boners more often just reminded me of that fact
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Old 24-08-2006, 10:59 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Well, it is like the muscles in your penis.
So if that does not get worked then it might atrophy.
But according to the doc those exercises helped 50% of the men without doing anything else.
Hey, I am doing them now while I am at work typing......LMAO.....
All that and getting paid
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Curse you all to hell if you cheapen the love of a woman and the giving of herself to a man with such a theory as the Ladder theory.
And it is a sad day to me, if the young women and men are believing this crap
about what a relationship is all about and what women want if today's woman indeed only wants what the graph suggests.

Interesting that the graphs are written in terms that men understand.
Power, looks, other things...

A woman sizes up a man with one thing in mind. Is he trustworthy?
EVERYTHING else falls underneath this umbrella.

The criteria used in the theory's charts are important to men because the heart of a man is to battle and win and be superior. I will say that field study is biased towards the man's perspective.

Do you men really even care what the heart of woman is or needs?

I'm so full of intense angry frustrated emotions right at the moment that I'm going to stop until I can get control of them.

Incorrect conclusions have been drawn from the axioms because the axioms have been misinterpreted.

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you can go ahead in live in your little fantasy land with pixies and fairys if thats what makes u happy - and i hope it works out for you i really do

the rest of us realistic folk who are slightley less delusional will live in the real world
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you can go ahead in live in your little fantasy land with pixies and fairys if thats what makes u happy - and i hope it works out for you i really do

the rest of us realistic folk who are slightley less delusional will live in the real world
lol i have to agree things arnt like that i'm afraid imo
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1) they pump blood around the body and sustain life.

2) when they no longer function as use (1) they can be cut up and fed as dog food
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you can go ahead in live in your little fantasy land with pixies and fairys if thats what makes u happy - and i hope it works out for you i really do

the rest of us realistic folk who are slightley less delusional will live in the real world

I love it when people refer to themselves as 'realistic'. Yah I get peeps grow up fast, however....

Throw some deep insightful philsophy and create something rather than repeat how ****e the world is, how rubbish relationships and people are. BORING BORING BORING.

I also find it intellectually lazy.






Ok on the nature of reality. It may just be what you say it is, how you think it to be.

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I find it amusing for the young find the older folks are out of touch with reality.

I thought my parents were clueless but as I grow older I can't get over how much they were trying to direct me and I rebelling.
I guess this will be the same with my daughter so to speak.

I see Peg's point, I actually agree with it.
I think the colorfull picture she was painting seemed a bit unrealistic but the dept of what she said should actually be taken noticed.

After all if women are responders, what role does this tell you that a man plays?
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come on iron man, DB, Tiny Tom etc - you gonna let me battle this one out on my own are ya

ok Tatyana here's some deep philosophy for you

now this is how it is with my age group eg 18-30
usually the older the woman is, the wiser she is and is usually fed up with the bad boy t0ssers and actually (maybe) wants to find a decent guy

I have witnessed many a NICE guy get royally fcked over by their girls because they are NICE (myself included - although i dont expect u to believe that)

as it states in the ladder theory - "things that girls say they want but actually dont"

they say they want a nice guy but when presenting with one they quickly get bored and discard them like a bit of cum filled tissue

then spend ages complaining they hate men - they are all b@stards - when infact it is their fault for ignoring the nice ones and picknig the B'stards in the first place


some of my male mates, are b"stards to their girl friends - they never call them back - turn up late, cheat on them - u name it - and the girls cant get enough of it - even when they know the guys reputation they still seem to be drawn to him

my mate who has shagged half of london - has gorgeous girls queuing up at the door even though the girls are fully aware of his reputation as a bad boy, weapon dealing/ cheating liar

i'm not saying i like it but GENERALLY this is the way it is. yes there are some exceptions and tatyana - u may well be one - but u saying that means exactly nothing as pretty much every woman i have met has said this to me in the first instance, only to turn out to be EXACTLY like all the rest

(i'm not like other girls - yeah and how may time have i heard that today) -

i actually hate the way that some blokes have to actually try to be perceived as 'bad' in order to get a girl - i think its pathetic

the whole playing game thing - acting not interested - playing hard to get
man i have been playin this game for 15 year - i'm fcking fed up of it



personally although i agree with the ladder theory i dont believe you should change who u are and act that way- i think u should be yourself - and if you are nice - stay that way
and if they dont like it they can fck off (and its a sad fact that most of them will)

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I really do agree with david Lloyd on this one…
100% it may be our age and the age of girls we encounter but he is bang on the money imo

Peg I cant see anything in your post that has ever come across me in my life (yes I am only 23)

A woman sizes up a man with one thing in mind. Is he trustworthy?
EVERYTHING else falls underneath this umbrella.

I have never ever seen that before!! A nice guy who is trust worth will always find it harder to get a girl than a ‘bad boy’

My bro is as good as gold and is always just a good friend… he always has girls ringing him up to tell him their problems and goes out to drinks with girls but never gets anywhere.. why is this?? Because he is too nice and trustworthy!!
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100% it may be our age and the age of girls we encounter but he is bang on the money imo

Peg I cant see anything in your post that has ever come across me in my life (yes I am only 23)

A woman sizes up a man with one thing in mind. Is he trustworthy?
EVERYTHING else falls underneath this umbrella.

I have never ever seen that before!! A nice guy who is trust worth will always find it harder to get a girl than a ‘bad boy’

My bro is as good as gold and is always just a good friend… he always has girls ringing him up to tell him their problems and goes out to drinks with girls but never gets anywhere.. why is this?? Because he is too nice and trustworthy!!
oh man i feel for him i know what thats like - it like u are paying for all these other w@nkers mistakes
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