hackskii

Wow Grid.
Nice...

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chemist

That is so true.

Ralphy

Oh man dont know how I missed this thread.

Great posts by Lorian, Tom and Gridlock.

Me myself i've tried Mr Nice Guy and what a load of crap that turned out to be. Everytime i've treated a girl nice, paid her compliments, taken her to nice places etc etc etc, the relationship has just fizzled out in no longer than say 3 months.

I'm currently in the longest relationship i've ever had, 14 months. When I first got with my girlfriend, I was seeing someone else which meant she always had to be on best form to "compete" with the other chick. This gave the beginning of the relationship that spark and kept her on her toes! Also in the early days she asked me "how many people have you slept with?", when I told her she was gobsmacked. I honestly think if I was single when we met and I said i've only slept with 2 people like a good little boy, she would not have been so eager to tie me down as she was. I was a challenge (now thats a word which hasn't yet been mentioned). Imo and experience, women always want what they cant have...bags, shoes, watches, Jewellery, cars, homes, holidays and.....MEN! Well men they think they'll struggle to have/tie down.

In my case, the sneaking around at the beginning of the relationship may have given me this "bad boy" image which she may have taken a liking to as I believe a lot of women do.

On the other hand when i've shown absolutely no interest in a woman i.e. when I let it be known I want one thing only, the woman will be bang on my case as if im the last man on earth, now why is this:confused: . Or i've taken a girl out (and may have slept with her) and dont show her much attention after because I weren't feeling her, she wants to start naming babies "if it's a boy, we'll call him..."LMAO

Naturally, i'm Mr nice guy and there's no doubt in my mind most girls do not like this! The old saying "treat 'em mean keep 'em keen" springs to mind.

Ralphy

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SNOWY

rep for gridlock.

we have TV, magazines, lifestyle telling us what they think we should want but it still doesn't get rid of the primative desire.


women describe their ideal man, i want a humourous, intelligent, kind, honest, who will adore me.

but they don't or atleast that's not what they really want

pookie69

Yea - jebus christ man. Where'd you pick up on all that sh!t?

The truth has never been so clear to me before. It's like i was hit by an epiphany after having read your post... :|...


EDIT:- i wanna hear some input from the women on this board - what are you girlies REALLY thinking?

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Spangle1187

Three rules to keeping a relationship

1. they have their life
2. you have your life
3. and the life you have together

lol

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Peg

I thought grid's post on UKM on why nice guys finish last was interesting. It was a man's point of view transposed on a woman. It was not from the woman's heart, but it was from a man's heart interpreting a woman's heart. Interesting that the men understood it and identified with it.
Status is the wrong word to use.
Confident authoritative leadership would be more accurate.
Men and women see this differently. This is where the confusion lies.

A woman wants to feel cherished not pandered to. A man interprets cherished monetarily and good manners, as in giving gifts, complimenting her etc... for the sake of pandering. He intreprets so because in his mind spending his money and time on the woman is how he shows affection since the earning of money and time away from earning money is part of the man's identity and worth and a giving of himself to the woman.

Interesting that the men use the words challenge, adore, status in their posts. These are all things men prefer in a relationship with a woman. They want the challenge of the chase, they want the woman to adore him, they want a higher status than the other men around them.

A woman wants a man who she can connect to emotionally, physically and mentally. She wants a strong man that respects and honors her femininity and identity as a woman and the beauty that she is. (mental, spiritual as well as physical beauty)
She wants a man who is strong enough to protect her soul, provide for her soul, and cherishes her soul enough to always pursue her beauty and not take her for granted. She wants the strong gentleman who walks in the room and commands an understated respect and deference from all who are there. He can be a nice man and most probably is socially, though he can be ruthless in his career, but a gentleman par excellence with his beauty on his arm. She will be beautiful too, maybe not that hollywood gorgeous, but the deepest beauty within shining outward because her femininity will flow through his masculinity and cause her own understated respect and deference from all who are there.

Nice men who are wimps and can't lead finish last. Nice men who understand true masculinity in themselves and true femininity in a woman and lovingly lead the relationship are the winners before the men who think only to treat women like ****.

Women who feel like they must be treated like **** do not have a clear understanding of what true femininity is. It is not masculinity in a woman's body. It is woman, pure woman different from man. He leads, she responds.
Women are responders by design. If you treat her like **** she will respond to that. At some point she will leave you for the nice man who respects her femininity and leads with confidence such that he doesn't have pride issues, self confidence issues that he has to treat her like ****. He understands the woman's heart. There is a mutual respect and adoration such that gifts are given not for pandering but for thanksgiving by both man and woman for each other.

It is not about social status. That's a man's interpretation based on his masculinity's view of chain of command and success by status, power, and money.

It is about how she can be her most beautiful.

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leopard

If you are a nice guy like every over man in a club i.e can i buy you a drink? or you are beautiful then why the hell would she pick you over any other guy if you bring nothing new to the table?

Confident with a bit of humour i.e take the pi55 out of them like you would your freinds e.g "you have man hands" then crack a sly smile or when a women asks you questions like what do you do as a living? how old are you? whats your name? just hit back with a "what is this a job interview?" What you should be looking for is a punch on the arm from a girl but she is laughing.

any of you guys want any more tips PM me and any of you ladies that are average looking also PM me

leopard

I mean average looking and above PM me

Tatyana

Good answer Peg.


Money doesn't mean ****E to me in choosing a man. Yah it is nice, and if he is being fully masculine, he will probably succeed well in his choosen career path.

Yes it is nice to be picked up in a car that was the same amount I bought my flat for, taken out by a model, a super rich business man, however, if the man is a ****ER, the novelty wears off FAST!


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Keyser Soze

Absolutely - the flipside to all that of course, is that a lot of women seem to be under the misapprehension that all WE men want is a eye candy on the town, a master chef in the kitchen and a great shag between the sheets. All those things ARE fantastic, but we too get bored if she can't hold a convo or outright put off if she isn't affectionate.

And that's OUR fault, this misapprehension, let me be the first to admit it...we don't yak enough about what ELSE we want, so how the hell are you (plural!) to know?!?!??!


Keyser.

David Lloyd

EXACTLY

(some) women will get all their mental stimulation from a male friend who makes her laugh, gives advice and would always look after etc etc
she then seeks her sexual gratification from some drugged up ex convict wanted for murder (and extreme example but there ya go)

lete me intorduce you to the LADDER theory (if u havent already heard)

once you are on the friends ladder there is no turning back
do not get on that ladder

read and learn nice boys

http://www.intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html

Tatyana

I must be different, cause if I don't get the brain stimulation, not much else gets stimulated either!

I think having a friend that is a lover is a much better way to work out if you want to be in a serious relationship with someone.

If you think that you will be having animalistic, cave man sex at 70 to bolt your relationship together, think again!

Now while I intend to have sex till I am in the ground, I really don't think that full on bedroom acrobatics will be available to me at that age. However, my brain is the largest sex organ in my body!

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David Lloyd

all will conform to the ladder theory
there are no exceptions

if u read the ladder theory it make it clear that women will try and deny all knowledge of behaving in this way

example - above

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DB

lmfao!!^

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