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Old 16-08-2006, 12:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lads - sell me on the notion of appearing "Tough".

Unlike most blokes, I don't harbour some deep wish to appear a hardnut, and this unspoken wish seems to be a constant with a lot of blokes. If violence is a frequent feature of your life, don't improve your ability to reciprocate the violence, improve your life. Is your pub rough? Go to a smarter one. Your neighbourhood rough? Earn more and move out.

Raikes, I remember a while back you mentioned not boozing up and the first advantage thereof you mentioned was the clear-headed ability to duff up some ****head...do you not imagine I'd be a lot more embarrassed than intimidated at the thought of drinking in the same establishment as some hillbilly who can't hold his booze?? Not so much "Oh, sh1t" as just, "Ewwwwww, yuck!!". If I have to fight some guy in a crappy place, and win the fight, I HAVE STILL LOST - by being in a crappy place first off, and all I get is knuckles that hurt.

Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of being 'hard' - my size, for fatter or leaner, has always deterred aggro anyway, and only on very rare occasions has it encouraged a much smaller person (no Tom jokes, ok?) to have a go. Why go looking for it?

Why glorify actual, real-life violence? What can possibly be COOL about it???

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Hmmmmm, well this thread has probably put you in pole position for Tom's Homo thread, Keyser.

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You don't have to appear tough.

It's all about projection of confidence, I have met some guys who I have looked at and thought, no way would I fcuk with you, just because of how they carry and project themselves.

Confidence in your own ability normally dissuades any fighting but the ability has to be there as well.

I don't reckon I 'look' tough but hardly anyone wants to fight me, why?

Could be

1. I'm a big guy (muscles)
2. I'm a short guy so fighting and winning against me holds no trophy but could be disasterous for their ego if they lose.
3. I am a confident guy and rarely get intimidated by anyone due to my life experiences.

In my experience the loudest, toughnut type guy will always be below par to what he projects. All the tough guys I know hardly ever raise their voice or try to appear 'hard' normally of a problme presents itself they tend to deal with it quite quickly and swiftly, no messing.
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Unlike most blokes, I don't harbour some deep wish to appear a hardnut, and this unspoken wish seems to be a constant with a lot of blokes. If violence is a frequent feature of your life, don't improve your ability to reciprocate the violence, improve your life. Is your pub rough? Go to a smarter one. Your neighbourhood rough? Earn more and move out.

Raikes, I remember a while back you mentioned not boozing up and the first advantage thereof you mentioned was the clear-headed ability to duff up some ****head...do you not imagine I'd be a lot more embarrassed than intimidated at the thought of drinking in the same establishment as some hillbilly who can't hold his booze?? Not so much "Oh, sh1t" as just, "Ewwwwww, yuck!!". If I have to fight some guy in a crappy place, and win the fight, I HAVE STILL LOST - by being in a crappy place first off, and all I get is knuckles that hurt.

Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of being 'hard' - my size, for fatter or leaner, has always deterred aggro anyway, and only on very rare occasions has it encouraged a much smaller person (no Tom jokes, ok?) to have a go. Why go looking for it?

Why glorify actual, real-life violence? What can possibly be COOL about it???

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hmmmm ok then .........

"earn more and move out",.....i pick a lot of this from your post KS ,...hinting at how much you earn and using the term "peasant" a few times.....

so it seems that your "compensating" is done in a materialistic and monetary way....

not everyone is in the situation to be able to "earn more" dont you think if they could they would !?( and dont come back with the old "anythings possible if you want it enuff!"

"duff up some p1ss head"

i think if you find the post it reads more like "defend myself from said p1sshead"
if i want to socialise in a pub close to my area i will!,...if it happens to contain an idiot, fair enuff, if the idiot approaches me with an intent to cause me harm or insult i will "defend myself"..and deter the cockhead from further attempt at this,...


i dont understand the appeal of being hard

neither do i !

and would honestly say i,m not i keep my eye contact to a minimum and never adopt an agressive stance in any social situation,...

i will also (and have in the past) make myself look "soft" and talk, humour, or offer to have a pint with a guy, before i raise my fists,...

and your "my size has always detered aggro" comment is an attempt to appear "handy" anyway!!!!

i,m sorry KS but this thread seems to have been started as a thinly vailed comeback to my post earlier today in which i defended a mate of mine from your summerised analysis of him,....

not that he needed defending mind you ,...he's hard as fcuk....

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Unlike most blokes, I don't harbour some deep wish to appear a hardnut, and this unspoken wish seems to be a constant with a lot of blokes. If violence is a frequent feature of your life, don't improve your ability to reciprocate the violence, improve your life. Is your pub rough? Go to a smarter one. Your neighbourhood rough? Earn more and move out.

Raikes, I remember a while back you mentioned not boozing up and the first advantage thereof you mentioned was the clear-headed ability to duff up some ****head...do you not imagine I'd be a lot more embarrassed than intimidated at the thought of drinking in the same establishment as some hillbilly who can't hold his booze?? Not so much "Oh, sh1t" as just, "Ewwwwww, yuck!!". If I have to fight some guy in a crappy place, and win the fight, I HAVE STILL LOST - by being in a crappy place first off, and all I get is knuckles that hurt.

Honestly, I don't understand the appeal of being 'hard' - my size, for fatter or leaner, has always deterred aggro anyway, and only on very rare occasions has it encouraged a much smaller person (no Tom jokes, ok?) to have a go. Why go looking for it?

Why glorify actual, real-life violence? What can possibly be COOL about it???

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Watching the UFC is about as violent as my life gets lol.

And if your talking about me as one of the many who harbours a deep wish to be a hardnut - I dont think Ive claimed to be hard or violent for that matter, and I hate the thought of being a hardman - or people thinking i am . Once again im just a normal dude.

I think your the only person Ive threatened on here with violence lol, and that was only because you said something about kicking a women in the stomach to kill an unborn child - which kind of got to me a bit - what with my wife being pregnant and all - funny that.
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i am the biggest softy ever... i think the more comfortable you are with yourself the more comfortable your are showing your sensitive side to others...

i think u may have a complex about yourself with all these strange posts u keep making?
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To tell the truth - your the only one on here who winds me up - maybe its something to with your overly high opinion of yourself, the way you always try to come across better than anyone else, your bulls1t opinions, your bullsh1t posts, and your bulls1t idea that your any kind of bodybuilder other than just a fat fuk with a set of argos dumbells.

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As only I can...

But I didn't say "wifebeaters", you did. I said "Who treat them roughly" OWTTE, which is not the same as "Who rough them up". Anyway, come one, a couple of split lips or marks isn't wifebeating proper, for that you need a good few black eyes and trips to the hospital, what the sociology people call "repeated patterns of abuse".

(I can almost feel the emotions rising...)
When you had to watch your mum get beaten on a daily basis (and yourself) while growing up, its not too funny - but he knew it would **** someone off when he wrote it...

AND I got a PM from Peg telling me to remove a post I put up saying "I never really want to meet him so no harm done". Because it may upset him!?!
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When you had to watch your mum get beaten on a daily basis (and yourself) while growing up, its not too funny - but he knew it would **** someone off when he wrote it...

AND I got a PM from Peg telling me to remove a post I put up saying "I never really want to meet him so no harm done". Because it may upset him!?!
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hard or not hard hmmmmmmmm.......

what a stupid fcuking thread, who cares if someone is harder than someone else, fighting is a mugs game, no one ever wins a fight, so why even waste time on such a pathetic topic.

i would however like to agree with a few of the points raised, most truly tasty blokes do not need to publicise the fact the can go to town, its generally well known. of the lesser known people, i believe the quiet chap who doesnt do all the talking, should be taken more seriously that the lout who is giving it the big one.

Not everyone can just earn more money, its just not possible, eg you want to change career or get promotion etc , this would entail college or the like which would mean leaving said job to acheive this, hence even less money and i agree, we need to forget the mentality of everything is possible if you want it bad enough, i will never earn as much as richard branson, nor will i be able to grow wings and fly or keeping it on our bbing level i will never be able to bench 5 plates a side.

i dont want to go into some toilet of a boozer so i tend to stay away from place like that, however ass holes can find themselves into respectable places as well.
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Watching the UFC is about as violent as my life gets lol.

And if your talking about me as one of the many who harbours a deep wish to be a hardnut - I dont think Ive claimed to be hard or violent for that matter, and I hate the thought of being a hardman - or people thinking i am . Once again im just a normal dude.

I think your the only person Ive threatened on here with violence lol, and that was only because you said something about kicking a women in the stomach to kill an unborn child - which kind of got to me a bit - what with my wife being pregnant and all - funny that.

same here m8 with the ufc thing.

keyser why do you feel the need to put people into pidgeonholes?
not all bodybuilders are fcuked up lunatics that go round kicking people in the throat.
in my experience its quite the opposite. bodybuilders are generally well rounded
nice people, just slightly bigger than average.

obviuosly you get the odd kn0bhead as you would in any walk of life.

i bet theres been a few hard b4st4rds in the world of flower arranging(you get the point)
i think you keyser like to appear to be controvertial, when youre just not m8

and what is it with ironman ffs give the guy a break
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To tell the truth - your the only one on here who winds me up - maybe its something to with your overly high opinion of yourself, the way you always try to come across better than anyone else, your bulls1t opinions, your bullsh1t posts, and your bulls1t idea that your any kind of bodybuilder rather than just a fat fuk with a set of argos dumbells.

Is that what you mean about trying to be a hardnut? Maybe I just dont like you.
Oh, here we fvcking go again....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

The Argos dumbells were a funny one though...actually, I DID have a leftover set up until a few weeks ago, I gave them to the kid over the road.




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