Distented belly - Page 3 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

samurai69 · 29-04-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jnr Mr Plymouth

everything grows when you use GH......muscles AND internal organs. .

Another stupid question then
So from this statement, the heart would grow too,Right??? Isnt that rather dangerous :crazy:

Tatyana · 29-04-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jnr Mr Plymouth

genetics....

What gets to me is all the pros do the same thing (as you mentioned above) but pros like dexter slag ronnie coleman off saying about his gut. Interesting topic....

There is that thing that mesomorphs (perfect BBers, perfect mesomorphs are known as genetic freaks) have the 'rounded belly' look.

There is also that body type division of apples (fat around mid section), pears (like the big bums), and a few new ones in this like chilis or something.

So it may be largely due to genetics. AND maybe some bloating as well.

But that is a pretty big belly in those pics, AND he got it flat again, that is what is impressive IMO.

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Magic Torch · 29-04-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

what a stupid comment Genetics have a huge part to play in bodybuilding along with drugs so being huge does not necassarily come with huge amounts of Gear i am sure most of us that have competed at british level will know guys who have and do use 5g+ but they are not as big as ronnie....

Think I hit a nerve, not a stupid comment you have just taken it in the wrong way. Not saying that you have to be on huge amounts of gear to be big or that if you take 5g+ you will be. Of course genetics play a part as with every other sport.

I will elaborate - and it is a valid comment, there are very few guys around or were around in the past that are as big as Ronnie. This in mind anything that he or competitors do to gain advantage over the rest are probably done for the first time so who knows what effect they will have? They are pioneers, be it in the gear they take or the food they eat or the exercises they do.

crazycacti · 29-04-2006, 03:12 PM

i honestly think the main cause is the amount of food you have to eat to stay at that sort of weight...

300lbs at say 10% bf - thats a hell of a lot of food!

**big pete** · 29-04-2006, 03:49 PM

purely on a powerlifting outlook, when going for 1RM's on for instance deadlifts/squats, your taught to breath out into the belt. it tightens up the midsection, allowing you have more core stabiltiy, and giving you more of a blast in the hole.

i freind of mine had been powerlifting for a good few years, last year dieted down for a BBing show and still had a 'pot belly' and was instructed by his coach to immediately stop squatting/deadlifting and sustitute the excercises.

i myself have a larger-than-it-used-to-be belly, yes i am heavier, if anything id say im about the same BF% maybe 1-2% higher. and from constantly doing squat/deadlifts in this past 2 years, my upper-mid section has grown. and my lower back is thicker.

so i think the comment on deadlift/squats attributing is valid

**Pscarb** · 29-04-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jamiedsmith1981

Think I hit a nerve, not a stupid comment you have just taken it in the wrong way. Not saying that you have to be on huge amounts of gear to be big or that if you take 5g+ you will be. Of course genetics play a part as with every other sport.

I will elaborate - and it is a valid comment, there are very few guys around or were around in the past that are as big as Ronnie. This in mind anything that he or competitors do to gain advantage over the rest are probably done for the first time so who knows what effect they will have? They are pioneers, be it in the gear they take or the food they eat or the exercises they do.

why do you think you hit a nerve ??

please name the guys who are around that onstage are as big as ronnie i can think of 2 Gunther and Quincy taylo but i cannot seem to recall any one in the past being shredded onstage at 280+....

but you clearly stated that it was mainly down to massive amounts of drugs but now you are agreeing with me and that is the main factor is genetics....

the thing about all of this is that people get all shocked when they see this distention but we all want to be big and have huge muscles just by the fact that some do get distention and some don't and looking into the fact that their is not one deciding factor it would be fair to say that all of us that eat big, train with basics and use AAS/Slin GH and IGF run the risk of getting distention.....it is not a problem with huge 250lb+guys look at Sheridon he has terrible distention....

Golden Man · 29-04-2006, 05:38 PM

I dont know why im getting involved but here goes.Froma personal stand point most pro's have a little bit of gut ,gustavo baddell when he relaxes his gut is nearly as big as mr colman,art atwood gut .As mr colman is so damn big his gut is obviously going to stand out more like a skinny dude with a beer belly but in his case he is just massive.This is boring ive said it before but as a natural i do sometimes feel sorry for people who chose to take drugs.Reason being that for example colman is a pro but he still has to lift weights train diet etc but his gut is always mentioned,yet some short fat dude who's taken gear doesnt get the same amount of flack colman gets.For me its not all about size(specially being natural) but how many people on this forrum can say I train to ONLY get ripped (not many)Colman is doing what he has to to win.Now more to the point the gut is to do with the individual and how his body react if not everyone would look the same and before anybody says well colman uses more blahblah obviously as he is 280-300 on stage,if everybody who takes drugs thought they could get away with taken loads and still being in shape and able to diet and get in condition they would HENCE it is down to the individual.Ps mr scarborough any chance of you giving me an honest opinion on how bad I look as i have 6 weeks to go.

Lord Lucan · 29-04-2006, 05:57 PM

i'm not exaclty as informed as other on this subject but surely if you do more work on any muscle group they grow i know the whole low reps high weight an all dat bt i mean if your doin lifts that involve using you abs(as a stabaliser) and doin sit-ups or crunches then surely your mid section will get bigger eventually? am i wrong? but maybe that's why people end up with distended bellies due the years of lifting (and obvioulsy genetics) i mean most people with beer guts only develop 1 after years and years of drinking you don't get a beer gut after 1 night out! maybe thats the cause?

**Pscarb** · 29-04-2006, 06:10 PM

Ed have you mailed me the pics??

Golden Man · 29-04-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pscarb

Ed have you mailed me the pics??

Yep several times and there are pics of me under the section where people post pictures.If i have some at home I will email them to you.Is your address please don't post my addy up on the forum ed...

**Pscarb** · 29-04-2006, 06:14 PM

yea i don't use that mail addy any more use the one in my profile

BIG-UNC · 29-04-2006, 06:30 PM

i remember reading somewhere that on the day of a contest body builders take a lot of something to help with their pumps and look better on stage

cant remember what it was but could this be the cause of the distension?

sorry the comment is not exactly what i mean but hopefully some-one will know what i mean...pscarb????

Golden Man · 29-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Im rubbish can find your email address can you email it to me *******or check king 1 pics on the 16/4/06

Magic Torch · 29-04-2006, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pscarb

why do you think you hit a nerve ??

please name the guys who are around that onstage are as big as ronnie i can think of 2 Gunther and Quincy taylo but i cannot seem to recall any one in the past being shredded onstage at 280+....

but you clearly stated that it was mainly down to massive amounts of drugs but now you are agreeing with me and that is the main factor is genetics....

the thing about all of this is that people get all shocked when they see this distention but we all want to be big and have huge muscles just by the fact that some do get distention and some don't and looking into the fact that their is not one deciding factor it would be fair to say that all of us that eat big, train with basics and use AAS/Slin GH and IGF run the risk of getting distention.....it is not a problem with huge 250lb+guys look at Sheridon he has terrible distention....

Yeah I agree with that, both Drugs and genetics are contributory. Which one is more contributory no-one knows as I stated before these guys are pioneers and this is impossible to gauge as comparisons are not available.

Interesting thread though better than discussing who wears white socks or if you cry a lot

Carlos901 · 29-04-2006, 07:08 PM

bad idea to leave number on here lol, get pranked ;)

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It is a nessesary evil in our sport	6	7.50%
I do not like the look, and want a return to smaller models	41	51.25%
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29-04-2006, 03:12 PM	#34 (permalink)
crazycacti Fat and bulking... Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Isle of Man/Newcastle Posts: 1,417	i honestly think the main cause is the amount of food you have to eat to stay at that sort of weight... 300lbs at say 10% bf - thats a hell of a lot of food!

29-04-2006, 03:49 PM	#35 (permalink)
big pete UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: south midlands Posts: 3,797	purely on a powerlifting outlook, when going for 1RM's on for instance deadlifts/squats, your taught to breath out into the belt. it tightens up the midsection, allowing you have more core stabiltiy, and giving you more of a blast in the hole. i freind of mine had been powerlifting for a good few years, last year dieted down for a BBing show and still had a 'pot belly' and was instructed by his coach to immediately stop squatting/deadlifting and sustitute the excercises. i myself have a larger-than-it-used-to-be belly, yes i am heavier, if anything id say im about the same BF% maybe 1-2% higher. and from constantly doing squat/deadlifts in this past 2 years, my upper-mid section has grown. and my lower back is thicker. so i think the comment on deadlift/squats attributing is valid

29-04-2006, 05:38 PM	#37 (permalink)
Golden Man MY TROUSERS ARE TO BIG Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 881	I dont know why im getting involved but here goes.Froma personal stand point most pro's have a little bit of gut ,gustavo baddell when he relaxes his gut is nearly as big as mr colman,art atwood gut .As mr colman is so damn big his gut is obviously going to stand out more like a skinny dude with a beer belly but in his case he is just massive.This is boring ive said it before but as a natural i do sometimes feel sorry for people who chose to take drugs.Reason being that for example colman is a pro but he still has to lift weights train diet etc but his gut is always mentioned,yet some short fat dude who's taken gear doesnt get the same amount of flack colman gets.For me its not all about size(specially being natural) but how many people on this forrum can say I train to ONLY get ripped (not many)Colman is doing what he has to to win.Now more to the point the gut is to do with the individual and how his body react if not everyone would look the same and before anybody says well colman uses more blahblah obviously as he is 280-300 on stage,if everybody who takes drugs thought they could get away with taken loads and still being in shape and able to diet and get in condition they would HENCE it is down to the individual.Ps mr scarborough any chance of you giving me an honest opinion on how bad I look as i have 6 weeks to go.

29-04-2006, 05:57 PM	#38 (permalink)
Lord Lucan the sparrow never lands were the tiger roams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: somewere in the pacific with a bikini clad destiny's child runin round Posts: 680	i'm not exaclty as informed as other on this subject but surely if you do more work on any muscle group they grow i know the whole low reps high weight an all dat bt i mean if your doin lifts that involve using you abs(as a stabaliser) and doin sit-ups or crunches then surely your mid section will get bigger eventually? am i wrong? but maybe that's why people end up with distended bellies due the years of lifting (and obvioulsy genetics) i mean most people with beer guts only develop 1 after years and years of drinking you don't get a beer gut after 1 night out! maybe thats the cause?

29-04-2006, 06:10 PM	#39 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,967	Ed have you mailed me the pics??

29-04-2006, 06:14 PM	#41 (permalink)
Pscarb UK-Muscle Moderator and NABBA Champion Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 10,967	yea i don't use that mail addy any more use the one in my profile

29-04-2006, 07:08 PM	#45 (permalink)
Carlos901 Legend Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,805	bad idea to leave number on here lol, get pranked ;)