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insulin/gh/igf lots of food and other drugs mate basically

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Keyser Soze

No such thing as a stupid question, just stupid answers - trite, but true.

Distended stomachs are caused by GH (growth hormones). I'll let the others inject some experience in now, but I'll speculate that the dosage is they key to avoiding it.


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BIG-UNC

is it caused by doing very heavy dead lifts aswell? or incorrect form whilst doing sit-ups?

if im way off the mark just tell me to shut the fcuk up lol

Peg

Pookie69:

I don't think that was a stupid question at all.
I'd like to know more about it myself just from the biochemistry point of view.
The complexity of the human body is fascinating to me.

I need to go back to my endocrinology books and refresh my memory.

For most body builders who use GH I would say that is the main catalyst for the distended belly.
For those natural body builders that just can get rid of that last bit of fat to see the six pack try this: Power Breathing

Having had 5 children ranging from 7 pounds to 12 pounds at birth, I had to find something to get my tummy flat.

1. I've worked on my insulin/cortisol/gh balance.
2. I've worked on optimizing my diet and training routine.
3. I do the crunches like everyone else and the weight lifting movements to increase my core strength.
4. I've added power breathing this year as per the article.

Maybe Hackskii and Tatyana can shed more light on how GH causes the belly distension.

I will say that my belly grew while under the stress of cortisol during the 6 month evacuation due to the hurricane. I was beginning to look pregnant without proper cause.
I am also elated to say that my belly is decreasing very nicely now that I'm back into my MA and weight training, good sleeping habits, eating clean, and keeping the hormones in balance through the afore mentioned elements of a healthy life style.

Here's an interesting article on cortisol.

andyparry123

lol, just tried the power breathing, look like something out of the film "scanners" but will continue if it helps reign the gut in, cheers peg

Tatyana

Human growth hormone (hGH), causes growth, including the internal organs, which causes the belly to distend.

I think.

Newbie as well

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Pscarb

the truth is that there is no proof behind any of the above causing Distention it is all guess work..

Genetics play a huge part in this if it didn't every pro would have distention and they don't also eaing huge amounts of food can play a big part..

don't get me wrong i too believe that substances like GH/IGF-1/Slin do play a part in the distention of stomachs but so do AAS i have proof that for me using high androgens widened my waist as this was one of the changes noticed this yr onstage after a yr without AAS BUT i did use both IGF-1 and GH but not in huge amounts....all this is only my opinion...

if any of you do have proof that any one substance or a combination of these substances causes Distention i would like to see it.....

i don't buy the deadlift theory though as i have performed more deads in the last year than at any other time in my training life and my waist is smaller....mmm go figure...

Jnr Mr Plymouth

If you look at ronnie coleman in 98 his waist appeared quite small. Then you look at him in 2004.........what a difference. His stomach is much bigger and you can even see it in his head how his jaws etc got considerably bigger. This is obviously down to excess amounts of growth im sure everyone would agree. His diet was probably the same and has been for years and years so I dont think thats part of it at all. The belly is clearly down to HGH.......everything grows when you use GH......muscles AND internal organs. I dont think anyone can 'prove' this but you look at some pros in their early days and then years later theyve blown up 20-30lbs............along with their belly. There was a time when ronnie colemans waist was as small as dexters. If anyone disagrees ill put up a pic.

Pscarb

seeing as their are muscles all around the midsection it would go without saying that when you are reaching the upper scales of 280+pounds that these will also grow just so they can continue to support the frame.

please tell me how you know for definate this is down to growth?? it is said that dextor uses 20+iu's of GH per day year round where is his distention?? i can name plenty of pro's that have no distention that definatly use large amounts of GH so if ronnies distention is so obvouisly down to GH why are these other pro's not walking around with distention....like i said earlier there is not definate proof it is all a matter of opinion...

and his diet has changed over the yrs i was told this from Brian Dobson who trains with Ronnie at metroflex when i was in texas on business 3 yrs ago....

Magic Torch

No mate I completly agree, you only have to think about the dosage ronnie must be on to know that ths must have an extreme effect on his body.

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Jnr Mr Plymouth

Cool you went to metroflex! About the GH........maybe some pros are lucky and some are not so lucky. Dexters organs may not grow and his muscles do.........and maybe ronnies organs do grow along with his muscles. So weve assessed its not to do with deadlifts, im pretty sure it cant be down to diet............(I mean is there really much difference between dexters and ronnies diet apart from a certain number of calories).

Im no expert on GH, far from it. So if its not deadlifts or GH (and drugs) then what causes this gut. Ronnie coleman said in a flex magazine that its because of all the food he eats and when someone told him he wasnt symetrical he said 'well I have a 60" chest that is in proportion to my waist'.

Maybe dexter uses 20ius a day..............maybe ronnie uses 30+.........but I agree with you on the genetics part also.

Dudex

I dont think you can 'definately' say it is anything, if you take account of how long he has trained, how heavy he trains, how much he eats, how much AAS , how much gh etc.. then factor in genetics. Too much there to say its down to one thing especially when others use GH and do not a distended gut.

Pscarb

i never said it was not down to GH i said their is no proof to say it is....

if you think about what you have said above about diet you will see that it could most definatly lead to distention if you are eating 5000/8000cals per day then your stomach will swell just like it shrinks when you diet which you will find out when you diet this yr...

what a stupid comment Genetics have a huge part to play in bodybuilding along with drugs so being huge does not necassarily come with huge amounts of Gear i am sure most of us that have competed at british level will know guys who have and do use 5g+ but they are not as big as ronnie....

i have used Dextor as an example but you can use alot of other pro's aswell on both sides of the argument what i am trying to say is that not one thing is unique about the guys who have distention over the guys that don't
they all use AAS/GH/IGF/Slin
they all eat alot of Cals in the off season
They all perform basic lifting movements (deadlifts, squats) so why don't all pro's have distenton if some one can answer this question i would be a happy man......

but like i said fellas we are all guessing what causes it....

Jnr Mr Plymouth

genetics....

What gets to me is all the pros do the same thing (as you mentioned above) but pros like dexter slag ronnie coleman off saying about his gut. Interesting topic....

Pscarb

not really mate slagging off a competitor is human nature at a certain level in any sport...