Answers to common questions... - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

**Great White** · 21-02-2006, 08:43 PM

Hello Gang

Ok, summer is coming, and this is one of our busiest times as people are looking to lean up and get in shape for summer.

Here are the answers to the most comon questions I get from people who are looking to start steroids, especially around this time of year.

Im looking to start steroids, im 17 years old and weigh about 160lb. Id like to bulk up to around 200lb to look stunning on the beach!

Dont Start! Your far to young for a start, your body should easlily be pumping out enough hormones and testosterone for another 3 - 4 years for you to gain good weight and still stay lean without to much trouble! You risk serious health complications starting at your age!

Your also FAR to light. You should be able to get to 200lb+ easy without the use of steroids. Stick to basic supplements like creatine, glutamine, whey protein and weight gainers. If your not gaining weight then its your diet and/or training that is the problem. Again using Steroids when to light may not nessisarly impose health risks, but you will struggle a lot more gaining weight in the long run if you start at this weight!

Also, you have NO change of gaining 40lb+ of good quality muscle in a couple of years, let alone a couple of months!

Ok, well im ignorant and want to start anyway - Will you help me?

Yes. I wont be happy about it, but If your going to start anyway, Id rather help you out the best I can and try keep you as healthy as possible than to turn you away and let you do it on your own!

Ok, well, I have heard Dianabol and Anadrol are good to start on?

Dianabol yes, anadrol NO NO NO! Anadrol is one of the strongest orals avalible you WILL damage yourself using it at your stage. Its like putting rocket fuel into a headge trimmer!

Dianabol is the steroid that EVERYONE starts on, it always has been and always will be the most popular steroid.

Its cheap, its easy to take, its easy to control, everyone gets on well with it, and it works!

Although im not a fan and never have been, on oral only cycles, at your weight and age im not going to advise you start on injectables.

What Dosage should I take and when should I take it?

Ok, more often than not your going to end up with "Pinkies" either british dispensary, british dragon or a thai equivalent - These are 5mg.

You want to take 30mg (6 tablets) every day for 6 weeks. Some people like to take them all in the morning (You have heard the sentance "Dianabol for breakfast? Breakfast of champions") but I prefer to split the dosage am and pm.

Id suggest taking (as with any dose) half in the morning, and half pm, about an hour before bed.

Do I need to take anything else along side dianabol?

Usually the answer will be no at this dosage. Unless you are one of the unluck sensative people. You will need to get some Tamofaxin (usually reffered to as "Nolva") which will help control the conversion to eastrogen, which in turn helps stop or control side effects related to this (Water retention, fat gain (around the hips, stomach and chest), ichy or sensitive nipples, headaches or Gyno (AKA "Bitch Tits")

If you feel you are getting side effects then take Nolva for the rest of the cycle, starting at 40mg for the first week and then 20mg for the rest of the cycle.

Do I need to take anything when i finish?

Yes, You will need to take clomid or nolva when you finish your cycle. When on a cycle you may find that your testicals shrink, or seem to go up inside your body (like when your cold) - This is know as "Testicular atrophy" and is caused by the hormone imbalance and/or hormone change when you take any anabolic or hormone "altering" steroid.

The Clomid will help with the atrophy and in short, "will make everything work as it was before"

If using Clomid, You will need to take 300mg the day after your last dianabol tablet, then 100mg ED for 10 days, then 50mg for another 10 days (21 days total)

If using Nolva (Tamofaxin) you will need to take 100mg the day after your last dianabol tablet, 60mg for 10 days, then 20-40mg for another 10 days.

Thanks - How many cycles should I do before I start on injectables?

Well, as I said before, Your to light and young to be on anyway, and its still going to take you a good 12 - 18 months to get near 200lb.

As i also said, Im not a fan of oral only cycles, So I would recommend using Testosterone Ethanate, or Sustanon (Testostrone mix) as your first cycle, but because of the situation, I wouldnt even think of starting injectables untill your 21 and at least 200lb

Well, i dont want to listen to you, I want to get as big as posisble, as quick as possible and I dont care about anything else!

Ok buddy, its your body.

I always recommend the basic bulking cycle that has been used for years as a good, solid cycle.

This consists of Dianabol, Winstrol, Sustanon (Sust250) Nolva, Proviron and Clomid to be ran as follows:

Weeks 1 - 6: Dianabol @ 30mg ED
Weeks 1 - 8: Sust250 @ 500mg WK (2 amps WK)
Weeks 7 - 10: Winstrol @ 50mg ED (I recommend orals)
Weeks 11 - 14: Clomid or Nolva as suggested above

Weeks 2 - 10: Nolva @ 20mg ED
Weeks 2 - 10: Proviron @ 25mg ED

You will need 252 Dianabol Tablets, 16 Amps of sust (although get a few spare cause you will probabbly break or shatter a couple first time round), 21 winstrol tablets. 60 Nolva Tablets, 60 Proviron Tablets and 48 Clomid Tablets.

How much can i expect to gain from this?

That depends on how hard you work, your diet plan and your training routine. If your starting steroids, then you SHOULD already have these spot on!

Expect to gain around 5 - 6lb of water weight within 3 weeks, then you want to look at a gradual gain of around 2lb a week maximum (any more than this your gaining to fast, and probabbly just getting fat! Much less, then your wasting your money, not eating right, not training right, or have purchased fake steroids)

Remember, this will be one of your best cycles, as its your first, your body receptors are fresh and everything is new to you - MAKE THE MOST OF IT!!

Ok, when I finish this cycle - How long before I can go back on it again?

At your stage in the game, stick to the basic rule of thumb which is time on = time off. Your going to be on for 14 weeks in total, so take 14 weeks off before you start again. This allows for 2 good cycles a year.

Well, there we go. Thats most of the common questions I get from first time users. This is mainly focused on bulking up.

I will write up a cutting version tomorrow, I would do it tonight, but its late, Ive just got back from a hard leg workout and I need to spend some time with Clare ;)

Please remember, These are MY OPPINIONS ONLY, Im sure some people will disagree, this is from personal experiance and research.

I dont mean to offend anyone, we all have to start somewhere.

Mods feel free to add, disagree, comment etc.

Thanks

Paul

trickymicky69 · 21-02-2006, 08:47 PM

who thought of the questions? reminds me of when i was seventeen. very good advice if i can just stop laughing

Tatyana · 22-02-2006, 12:28 AM

All the huge guys I know NEVER started gear until their 30s or 40s! They have all told me it is essential to build up some decent muscle naturally.

Really why mess with those naturally high testo levels, could end up with your libido completely trashed! Why look good if you can't use that fine body!

Crazy Mick · 19-03-2006, 12:28 PM

Ok, well im ignorant and want to start anyway - Will you help me?

Yes. I wont be happy about it, but If your going to start anyway, Id rather help you out the best I can and try keep you as healthy as possible than to turn you away and let you do it on your own!

Right, if someone is going to use they are going to use, no matter what anyone says, helping out is the way to go, some guys don't know what they are doing and impartial advice is appreciated, like the needle exchanges do all over the country, qualified nurses, etc.

21-02-2006, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Great White Sexy Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 9,272	Answers to common questions... Hello Gang Ok, summer is coming, and this is one of our busiest times as people are looking to lean up and get in shape for summer. Here are the answers to the most comon questions I get from people who are looking to start steroids, especially around this time of year. Im looking to start steroids, im 17 years old and weigh about 160lb. Id like to bulk up to around 200lb to look stunning on the beach! Dont Start! Your far to young for a start, your body should easlily be pumping out enough hormones and testosterone for another 3 - 4 years for you to gain good weight and still stay lean without to much trouble! You risk serious health complications starting at your age! Your also FAR to light. You should be able to get to 200lb+ easy without the use of steroids. Stick to basic supplements like creatine, glutamine, whey protein and weight gainers. If your not gaining weight then its your diet and/or training that is the problem. Again using Steroids when to light may not nessisarly impose health risks, but you will struggle a lot more gaining weight in the long run if you start at this weight! Also, you have NO change of gaining 40lb+ of good quality muscle in a couple of years, let alone a couple of months! Ok, well im ignorant and want to start anyway - Will you help me? Yes. I wont be happy about it, but If your going to start anyway, Id rather help you out the best I can and try keep you as healthy as possible than to turn you away and let you do it on your own! Ok, well, I have heard Dianabol and Anadrol are good to start on? Dianabol yes, anadrol NO NO NO! Anadrol is one of the strongest orals avalible you WILL damage yourself using it at your stage. Its like putting rocket fuel into a headge trimmer! Dianabol is the steroid that EVERYONE starts on, it always has been and always will be the most popular steroid. Its cheap, its easy to take, its easy to control, everyone gets on well with it, and it works! Although im not a fan and never have been, on oral only cycles, at your weight and age im not going to advise you start on injectables. What Dosage should I take and when should I take it? Ok, more often than not your going to end up with "Pinkies" either british dispensary, british dragon or a thai equivalent - These are 5mg. You want to take 30mg (6 tablets) every day for 6 weeks. Some people like to take them all in the morning (You have heard the sentance "Dianabol for breakfast? Breakfast of champions") but I prefer to split the dosage am and pm. Id suggest taking (as with any dose) half in the morning, and half pm, about an hour before bed. Do I need to take anything else along side dianabol? Usually the answer will be no at this dosage. Unless you are one of the unluck sensative people. You will need to get some Tamofaxin (usually reffered to as "Nolva") which will help control the conversion to eastrogen, which in turn helps stop or control side effects related to this (Water retention, fat gain (around the hips, stomach and chest), ichy or sensitive nipples, headaches or Gyno (AKA "Bitch Tits") If you feel you are getting side effects then take Nolva for the rest of the cycle, starting at 40mg for the first week and then 20mg for the rest of the cycle. Do I need to take anything when i finish? Yes, You will need to take clomid or nolva when you finish your cycle. When on a cycle you may find that your testicals shrink, or seem to go up inside your body (like when your cold) - This is know as "Testicular atrophy" and is caused by the hormone imbalance and/or hormone change when you take any anabolic or hormone "altering" steroid. The Clomid will help with the atrophy and in short, "will make everything work as it was before" If using Clomid, You will need to take 300mg the day after your last dianabol tablet, then 100mg ED for 10 days, then 50mg for another 10 days (21 days total) If using Nolva (Tamofaxin) you will need to take 100mg the day after your last dianabol tablet, 60mg for 10 days, then 20-40mg for another 10 days. Thanks - How many cycles should I do before I start on injectables? Well, as I said before, Your to light and young to be on anyway, and its still going to take you a good 12 - 18 months to get near 200lb. As i also said, Im not a fan of oral only cycles, So I would recommend using Testosterone Ethanate, or Sustanon (Testostrone mix) as your first cycle, but because of the situation, I wouldnt even think of starting injectables untill your 21 and at least 200lb Well, i dont want to listen to you, I want to get as big as posisble, as quick as possible and I dont care about anything else! Ok buddy, its your body. I always recommend the basic bulking cycle that has been used for years as a good, solid cycle. This consists of Dianabol, Winstrol, Sustanon (Sust250) Nolva, Proviron and Clomid to be ran as follows: Weeks 1 - 6: Dianabol @ 30mg ED Weeks 1 - 8: Sust250 @ 500mg WK (2 amps WK) Weeks 7 - 10: Winstrol @ 50mg ED (I recommend orals) Weeks 11 - 14: Clomid or Nolva as suggested above Weeks 2 - 10: Nolva @ 20mg ED Weeks 2 - 10: Proviron @ 25mg ED You will need 252 Dianabol Tablets, 16 Amps of sust (although get a few spare cause you will probabbly break or shatter a couple first time round), 21 winstrol tablets. 60 Nolva Tablets, 60 Proviron Tablets and 48 Clomid Tablets. How much can i expect to gain from this? That depends on how hard you work, your diet plan and your training routine. If your starting steroids, then you SHOULD already have these spot on! Expect to gain around 5 - 6lb of water weight within 3 weeks, then you want to look at a gradual gain of around 2lb a week maximum (any more than this your gaining to fast, and probabbly just getting fat! Much less, then your wasting your money, not eating right, not training right, or have purchased fake steroids) Remember, this will be one of your best cycles, as its your first, your body receptors are fresh and everything is new to you - MAKE THE MOST OF IT!! Ok, when I finish this cycle - How long before I can go back on it again? At your stage in the game, stick to the basic rule of thumb which is time on = time off. Your going to be on for 14 weeks in total, so take 14 weeks off before you start again. This allows for 2 good cycles a year. Well, there we go. Thats most of the common questions I get from first time users. This is mainly focused on bulking up. I will write up a cutting version tomorrow, I would do it tonight, but its late, Ive just got back from a hard leg workout and I need to spend some time with Clare ;) Please remember, These are MY OPPINIONS ONLY, Im sure some people will disagree, this is from personal experiance and research. I dont mean to offend anyone, we all have to start somewhere. Mods feel free to add, disagree, comment etc. Thanks Paul __________________ Welcome to Uk-Muscle.co.uk "I was born perfect, and just like the great white shark, have never had to evolve!" To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Hardcore Bodybuilding & Powerlifting Community! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Bodybuilding & Sports Video Sharing Community!

21-02-2006, 08:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
trickymicky69 straight talker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: sunnyside up Posts: 1,543	who thought of the questions? reminds me of when i was seventeen. very good advice if i can just stop laughing __________________ 'those who look but do not see, go away no wiser than whence they came"

22-02-2006, 12:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tatyana My name is EARL Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On my bloody bike doing cardio Posts: 3,463	Gear and young ones All the huge guys I know NEVER started gear until their 30s or 40s! They have all told me it is essential to build up some decent muscle naturally. Really why mess with those naturally high testo levels, could end up with your libido completely trashed! Why look good if you can't use that fine body!

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19-03-2006, 12:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
Crazy Mick Looking Freaky Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 643	Ok, well im ignorant and want to start anyway - Will you help me? Yes. I wont be happy about it, but If your going to start anyway, Id rather help you out the best I can and try keep you as healthy as possible than to turn you away and let you do it on your own! Right, if someone is going to use they are going to use, no matter what anyone says, helping out is the way to go, some guys don't know what they are doing and impartial advice is appreciated, like the needle exchanges do all over the country, qualified nurses, etc.