magicune

GOOD post... nice cycle for a beginner...

But why would u get back to d-bol again in weeks 9-12? whats that gona gain ? just toxic ur liver a bit more

big

It takes the guess work out of when to start PCT.

Switching to fast acting gear while allowing the slow acting gear to get out of your system is sensible.

Ideally switching to prop would be good - but a beginner doing EOD shots for 4 weeks right after spending 8 weeks of doing shots won't be too pleasant... which is why I recommended dbol.

TBH, IMO in sensible doses, dbol is no more liver toxic than a couple of beers.

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winger

Did someone say beer? I will drink to that! :beer1:

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kevmac

question is how much protien can the body handle at once ist 50g or 60g ive heard different storys, as at the moment im probably getting 200g a day from shakes and 40 to 60g a day from tuna and cottage cheese

big

It's different for everybody, but probably a LOT more than literature suggests - especially if you're lifting heavy.

I would suggest that getting 200g of protein from shakes and only 40-60g from whole foods PROBABLY isn't the best method though. IMO you should be getting as much as possible from food and make up the difference with shakes.

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hackskii

Totally true.........

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winger

Very nice Princess. :love:

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butcher907

Thanks big:peace:

boldster

can i ask a silly question or 2
What are parralel barbell rows and also back squats ATF
howcome there are no arms in there
and will doing this just twice per week work, would appreciate some feedback from this 1, thank you

big

Parallel barbell rows are like normal barbell rows, but you're trying to keep your back as parallel as possible with the floor. This means sticking your ass out to stop your back from rounding.

Back squats ATF are "normal" squats nice and deep (ATF = ass to floor.... not literally, but you get the idea).

The bench, overhead, row and chins will pile mass on your arms. There is no need to waste recovery time with direct arm work at this level.

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boldster

damn seriously, i mean i do this method when i do bent over rows and squats i do deep, so that routine as followed will do fantasticly, thank you big its nice to have well educated people such as yourself about.
Coming to read again i was always told to do 1 big muscle group and 1 small because you want more blood to that particular muscle, also i don't do the juice will i still gain from this progy, i'm not slating anyone i just want plain and simple and train damn hard like i do and grow humongess, well BIG.

crazycacti

well educated emmmmm..... emmmmm......

yeah suppose he does ok on this post lmao!

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big

Yes the routine will work fine whether you are on gear or not.

If 1 big muscle group and 1 small works for you, keep doing it. If however it isn't giving you your desired results, give this routine a try instead It's not about more blood to a muscle... it's all about lifting more each session

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boldster

me again, i took last week off a nice rest until Saturday when the mother-in-law passed away, So i hit the gym this morning with this routine tbh i didn't feel i did a good workout but i suppose give it time and determined to gain some size, thanks again big

big

Just keep adding a small amount of weight to the bar each session dude. It's not about how it "feels", its about the results

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