E-Book for raising your natural testosterone levels. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

**hackskii** · 24-08-2004, 09:45 PM

Here is a E-Book I downloaded on how to raise your natural test levels.

**hackskii** · 25-08-2004, 01:51 AM

Oh, sorry guys you will have to right click and do the save as.

Otherwise you will just open it up, which is ok either way.
Have not read through but some basic info from what I have read.

winger · 25-08-2004, 01:57 AM

Perfect for work! If the guy took the time to make it so pretty I will read it for sure.........he he he. Will coment later.

Killerkeane · 25-08-2004, 06:10 PM

just read it, seems to make very good sense, Some good facts and figures and sure to increase your chances of raising T levels but revolutionary??? I dont think so.

Killerkeane · 25-08-2004, 06:10 PM

and i dont trust anybody that charges money for these programs.
I would say however, he is definetly on the right track for increased muscle growth, raised tes levels, if you can do that without the artiicial then even better. Fighting is proven to dramatically increase test levels by a big percentage, you can feel it pumping through your veins just before the first punch. Let all of your rage go against a punchbag and you have got some good test being produced. But i dont think vegetables, bit of fighting here and there, eating specific meats is really going to cause such a dramatic increase of muscle mass being produced?
Good principles but another scam looking for your money i would say.

**hackskii** · 25-08-2004, 06:17 PM

Yah, I just finished it today at work. I did find it interesting the foods that naturally blocked estrogen. The food he refered to as cruciferous. I have heard broccoli but not stuff like cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts (yuck), and such.

Also having an orgasim can raise test levels too.

And about cortisol levels, another guy that talks about this about being a stress hormone.

Nice little article on the endrocrine system too.

Killerkeane · 25-08-2004, 06:21 PM

yeah, nice article.
I learned a lot from it, i have always known the importance of test levels since the 1st step of walking in the gym, but i dont think eating certain veggies would mean a dramatic increase of muscle? It would help certainly so it should be considered i guess.

**hackskii** · 25-08-2004, 06:24 PM

Well what he ment was that if you are doing things to raise your test levels above normal then the body counters by manufacturing estrogen. He was saying that you need some estrogen but not alot so blocking some will keep you anabolic as estrogen is catabolic by nature.

Killerkeane · 25-08-2004, 06:28 PM

yeah, what he is saying is spot on as essentially it is what every bodybuilder is striving for.

I know this sounds fcuking stupid, but obviously women have higher estrogen levels which accomodates for lower test levels causing them to have lower muscle mass capabilities?
Do women bodybuilders have to block out rising estrogen levels and raise test levels?

But women dont have test levels do they???? Dam i sound stupid, im :confused: confused :confused: :confused: :confused:

Killerkeane · 25-08-2004, 07:08 PM

http://ironmaglabs.com/anabolic-matrix.html

good product for raising test levels, but missing the point a little a bit i think

**hackskii** · 25-08-2004, 08:40 PM

Yah, women do have testosterone, but not nearly as much as men.
Thats why when women go through the change and then their estrogen stops they still have testosterone and they can get facial hair and stuff.

I did know a girl that blocked estrogen and she got pretty big. Now, I dont know if she took steroids but I know she took nolvadex. She said the nolva made her big. But I will never know if this is true of BS

Killerkeane · 26-08-2004, 12:12 AM

very interesting, so does steroids just boot test levels up the roof or does it block estrogen?
so the only difference between male and female is basically (apart from physical attirbutes) is the amounts of test to estrogen? Fascinating

winger · 26-08-2004, 12:22 AM

Womens tes levels are 60 and below. Us men are between 300-700 but that is for the older guys I feel. It can be more like 400-700 and higher if you are younger.

Killerkeane · 26-08-2004, 12:56 AM

surely though, if your test levels are higher when you are younger, you should have more ability to pack on the mass, yet most younger people have high metabolisms?

**hackskii** · 26-08-2004, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killerkeane

surely though, if your test levels are higher when you are younger, you should have more ability to pack on the mass, yet most younger people have high metabolisms?

Much truth here.
So with that said, diet is key. Diet is anabolic. You would have to really pack on the lbs and then diet them off later to remove the fat.

Lets take this to the extreme. I am almost 45 you are lets say 19. Your young system is still running in high gear and mine is slowing down.
You have high test levels and I have lower test levels.
You have high HGH levels and I have lower HGH levels.

Taking the metabolism aside who would grow faster?........................YOU!
If I ate the food that you would need to grow I would get fat,
If you ate the food that you need to grow you will grow.
Efficiencies here and this is hormonal and other things too.

24-08-2004, 09:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
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25-08-2004, 01:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Oh, sorry guys you will have to right click and do the save as. Otherwise you will just open it up, which is ok either way. Have not read through but some basic info from what I have read. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-08-2004, 01:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	Perfect for work! If the guy took the time to make it so pretty I will read it for sure.........he he he. Will coment later. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-08-2004, 06:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	just read it, seems to make very good sense, Some good facts and figures and sure to increase your chances of raising T levels but revolutionary??? I dont think so. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

25-08-2004, 06:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	and i dont trust anybody that charges money for these programs. I would say however, he is definetly on the right track for increased muscle growth, raised tes levels, if you can do that without the artiicial then even better. Fighting is proven to dramatically increase test levels by a big percentage, you can feel it pumping through your veins just before the first punch. Let all of your rage go against a punchbag and you have got some good test being produced. But i dont think vegetables, bit of fighting here and there, eating specific meats is really going to cause such a dramatic increase of muscle mass being produced? Good principles but another scam looking for your money i would say. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen: Last edited by Killerkeane; 25-08-2004 at 06:19 PM.

25-08-2004, 06:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Yah, I just finished it today at work. I did find it interesting the foods that naturally blocked estrogen. The food he refered to as cruciferous. I have heard broccoli but not stuff like cabbage, cauliflower, brussel sprouts (yuck), and such. Also having an orgasim can raise test levels too. And about cortisol levels, another guy that talks about this about being a stress hormone. Nice little article on the endrocrine system too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-08-2004, 06:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	yeah, nice article. I learned a lot from it, i have always known the importance of test levels since the 1st step of walking in the gym, but i dont think eating certain veggies would mean a dramatic increase of muscle? It would help certainly so it should be considered i guess. __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

25-08-2004, 06:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Well what he ment was that if you are doing things to raise your test levels above normal then the body counters by manufacturing estrogen. He was saying that you need some estrogen but not alot so blocking some will keep you anabolic as estrogen is catabolic by nature. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

25-08-2004, 06:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	yeah, what he is saying is spot on as essentially it is what every bodybuilder is striving for. I know this sounds fcuking stupid, but obviously women have higher estrogen levels which accomodates for lower test levels causing them to have lower muscle mass capabilities? Do women bodybuilders have to block out rising estrogen levels and raise test levels? But women dont have test levels do they???? Dam i sound stupid, im :confused: confused :confused: :confused: :confused: __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

25-08-2004, 07:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	http://ironmaglabs.com/anabolic-matrix.html good product for raising test levels, but missing the point a little a bit i think __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

25-08-2004, 08:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	Yah, women do have testosterone, but not nearly as much as men. Thats why when women go through the change and then their estrogen stops they still have testosterone and they can get facial hair and stuff. I did know a girl that blocked estrogen and she got pretty big. Now, I dont know if she took steroids but I know she took nolvadex. She said the nolva made her big. But I will never know if this is true of BS __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26-08-2004, 12:12 AM	#12 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	very interesting, so does steroids just boot test levels up the roof or does it block estrogen? so the only difference between male and female is basically (apart from physical attirbutes) is the amounts of test to estrogen? Fascinating __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen:

26-08-2004, 12:22 AM	#13 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	Womens tes levels are 60 and below. Us men are between 300-700 but that is for the older guys I feel. It can be more like 400-700 and higher if you are younger. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26-08-2004, 12:56 AM	#14 (permalink)
Killerkeane The Geezer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Somerset although im not proud lol. Posts: 2,978	surely though, if your test levels are higher when you are younger, you should have more ability to pack on the mass, yet most younger people have high metabolisms? __________________ Fortes Fortuna Paratus Mens-Fortune favours the prepared mind.:amen: