calories / Kcal, whats what? - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

TheMax · 10-05-2005, 01:34 AM

How does a calorie compare in size to a kcal?? Is it realy as simple as it looks 1/1000??
I know this is not always the case sometimes more to do with the amout of water the energy from it can heat. physics ... over my head.
thanks

demon · 10-05-2005, 01:50 AM

Kcal (kilocalories) means 1000 calories.

However, when people refer to calories, they almost always mean kilocalories. Which is a bit confusing.

ChefX · 10-05-2005, 01:08 PM

I think this question is for Vern.

megatron · 10-05-2005, 01:42 PM

the quantity of heat required to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water by 1°C from a standard initial temperature, especially from 3.98°C, 14.5°C, or 19.5°C, at 1 atmosphere pressure.

1000 cals = 1kcal, poeple talk in Kcals as demon says

Vernon · 13-05-2005, 04:22 AM

Hi all
a calorie is nothing unless you can find it...well go and do it and let us all know..not what it is but ..where it is and can be found and in what amounts in what food as why el;se bother to learn about it

good luck
vern

megatron · 13-05-2005, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernon

Hi all
a calorie is nothing unless you can find it...well go and do it and let us all know..not what it is but ..where it is and can be found and in what amounts in what food as why el;se bother to learn about it

good luck
vern

thats really ****ing helpful..............

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ChefX · 13-05-2005, 01:38 PM

I think according to Vern a calorie is a magical state of being that only he can find, its hidden where the sun don't shine and he has a desire to show you the way.

Vernon · 16-05-2005, 11:43 PM

Hi Chefx
Yes it is indeed magical as it contains the secret hidden formula to controlling your in shape and fat as its a magical rememdy that everone agrees with but cannot do like YOU and everyone else because we dont know how with out trying to learn phyzics we go on to eat out like...tommorow with no idea in what meal we know what it is ...and if you eat out which most do how can you know with out first having a system you can use and apply like a fast way of seeing and remebering at a glance all you know not only about teh "magical" calorie which it is ....its why we dont know our selves yet try toi teach others anything with out telling them how ist done....who here reading this has any REAL idea on a day to day basis of thier protein intake ....most will run to a quick book now and give me the highest quality protein or low calorie food but who knew the amount of calories they had ..YESTERDAY! non ..not one of you have...yet advice is plenty

as if we are going to take a replacement thats calorie counted that goes into a diet that is not.... as how do you know whats good to higher or lower either protein or calories ..forget carbs its a mugs game counting them as if you know calories and protein its obvious its mainly proetin and carb BUT calorie counted of course....

As for its hidden for where the sun dont shine ..in actual fact it is where the sun shines as its first factor was vegetation of which we evolved there by all we do is eat the suns produce as we become the conduit of the suns heat captured by the sun from vegetation or eating something that has evolved on vegetation and the calorie is a unit of the suns energy which incidently the australians have an even harder time than us because they use joules that thermodynamascist who proved a theroy quite correct only leaving us fools the inability to understand as once you fractionize the single calorie and introduce a decimal point as in 4.2 joules its even harder

so the invincible calorie is also illusive to everyone here ..unless some one here can tell how they found it with out using meal replacers with per meal sachets (grin)

lets see who can show me the weigh o i mean way to work out my diet not give me theirs

this would be magical to see

respectfully
vern

megatron · 17-05-2005, 08:52 AM

LOL Vern, you suck.

Armchair expert lol

megatron · 17-05-2005, 08:56 AM

"forget carbs its a mugs game counting them "

ROFL

moron

ChefX · 17-05-2005, 09:28 PM

oops

sorry, Vern the sun not shining was an insult. it was basically saying you want a Kiss Ass.

LOL

Vernon · 18-05-2005, 12:50 PM

You have gone on to lecture your pointless fruitless egotistic opinions on ratios, of protein types of carbohydrate glycemic index yet you seem to miss the simplistic tool of all ..its a calorie now make all your efforts in finding it like you have never done before You know and i know what i mean. lets go another way say one of your ardent readers listens to your advice and you recommened some 3000 cal diet with 200 grams of protein tell me how you would GET them to do it NOT tell them to do it!!

pratically NOT theroetically you are all theroy n books with no practise because you have no practise but book excerts and information its easy to show how you result to insults than debate and help.

regards
vern

Lauren · 18-05-2005, 12:53 PM

Vern,

Ok so as you have ALL the answers, can you post up a good diet to follow for someone my size.

9st 6lb - 5' 5" Female.

Would love to see what you suggest just out of interest. As your 'The worlds greatest nutritionist' you will be able to help me in my quest for a PERFECT body!!! LOL:p

Vernon · 18-05-2005, 05:14 PM

Ok so read and then only after you THINK will you get the answer...
1 work out what you are doing first ie cals/pro
2 and then either increase protein to "AS YOU WISH" be it any amount
3 when you want to lose body fat reduce calories by 500 a day or WHATEVER
4 know what calorie counting indicator has to do with your expenditure (make it relative)

if your losing yopur way already
dont try to get any diet or recommended eating be it any food learn to know what you are doing so you can implement what advice your given

read this a few time sto get it in whats being said

dont look for a diet of which you cannot apply long term, your not getting anything with more advice YOU tell me what YOUR doing

this is to show that even if you were given a diet plan it bwould only contain pro fat and carb (of course) so its best to see what your doing YOURSELF not me tell you something yuou cannot even apply or maintain.

ok.... i.. give you ..er..say..120 grams pro and 2500 calories..so what!....is it higher or lower than what YOU are doing now! You dont know as someone here how to find out and you will find they dont know either!

rofl
vern
wow this is hard work
vern

Pete · 18-05-2005, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vernon

rofl
vern
wow this is hard work
vern

Fook, you think that's hard work.....have you tried reading it!!!

10-05-2005, 01:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
TheMax Newbie Trainer Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 5	calories / Kcal, whats what? How does a calorie compare in size to a kcal?? Is it realy as simple as it looks 1/1000?? I know this is not always the case sometimes more to do with the amout of water the energy from it can heat. physics ... over my head. thanks

10-05-2005, 01:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
demon Looking Freaky Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 809	Kcal (kilocalories) means 1000 calories. However, when people refer to calories, they almost always mean kilocalories. Which is a bit confusing. __________________ DEMON "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit." - Aristotle

10-05-2005, 01:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
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13-05-2005, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	I think according to Vern a calorie is a magical state of being that only he can find, its hidden where the sun don't shine and he has a desire to show you the way. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

17-05-2005, 09:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	oops sorry, Vern the sun not shining was an insult. it was basically saying you want a Kiss Ass. LOL __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

13-05-2005, 04:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Vernon Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: swindon wiltshire Posts: 77	Hi all a calorie is nothing unless you can find it...well go and do it and let us all know..not what it is but ..where it is and can be found and in what amounts in what food as why el;se bother to learn about it good luck vern

16-05-2005, 11:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Vernon Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: swindon wiltshire Posts: 77	Hi Chefx Yes it is indeed magical as it contains the secret hidden formula to controlling your in shape and fat as its a magical rememdy that everone agrees with but cannot do like YOU and everyone else because we dont know how with out trying to learn phyzics we go on to eat out like...tommorow with no idea in what meal we know what it is ...and if you eat out which most do how can you know with out first having a system you can use and apply like a fast way of seeing and remebering at a glance all you know not only about teh "magical" calorie which it is ....its why we dont know our selves yet try toi teach others anything with out telling them how ist done....who here reading this has any REAL idea on a day to day basis of thier protein intake ....most will run to a quick book now and give me the highest quality protein or low calorie food but who knew the amount of calories they had ..YESTERDAY! non ..not one of you have...yet advice is plenty as if we are going to take a replacement thats calorie counted that goes into a diet that is not.... as how do you know whats good to higher or lower either protein or calories ..forget carbs its a mugs game counting them as if you know calories and protein its obvious its mainly proetin and carb BUT calorie counted of course.... As for its hidden for where the sun dont shine ..in actual fact it is where the sun shines as its first factor was vegetation of which we evolved there by all we do is eat the suns produce as we become the conduit of the suns heat captured by the sun from vegetation or eating something that has evolved on vegetation and the calorie is a unit of the suns energy which incidently the australians have an even harder time than us because they use joules that thermodynamascist who proved a theroy quite correct only leaving us fools the inability to understand as once you fractionize the single calorie and introduce a decimal point as in 4.2 joules its even harder so the invincible calorie is also illusive to everyone here ..unless some one here can tell how they found it with out using meal replacers with per meal sachets (grin) lets see who can show me the weigh o i mean way to work out my diet not give me theirs this would be magical to see respectfully vern

18-05-2005, 12:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Vernon Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: swindon wiltshire Posts: 77	You have gone on to lecture your pointless fruitless egotistic opinions on ratios, of protein types of carbohydrate glycemic index yet you seem to miss the simplistic tool of all ..its a calorie now make all your efforts in finding it like you have never done before You know and i know what i mean. lets go another way say one of your ardent readers listens to your advice and you recommened some 3000 cal diet with 200 grams of protein tell me how you would GET them to do it NOT tell them to do it!! pratically NOT theroetically you are all theroy n books with no practise because you have no practise but book excerts and information its easy to show how you result to insults than debate and help. regards vern

18-05-2005, 12:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Lauren The Lady Of The Manor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bedfordshire, UK Posts: 2,291	Vern, Ok so as you have ALL the answers, can you post up a good diet to follow for someone my size. 9st 6lb - 5' 5" Female. Would love to see what you suggest just out of interest. As your 'The worlds greatest nutritionist' you will be able to help me in my quest for a PERFECT body!!! LOL:p __________________ "Are you a Raver?" "No, Im straight!" :love:

18-05-2005, 05:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Vernon Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: swindon wiltshire Posts: 77	Ok so read and then only after you THINK will you get the answer... 1 work out what you are doing first ie cals/pro 2 and then either increase protein to "AS YOU WISH" be it any amount 3 when you want to lose body fat reduce calories by 500 a day or WHATEVER 4 know what calorie counting indicator has to do with your expenditure (make it relative) if your losing yopur way already dont try to get any diet or recommended eating be it any food learn to know what you are doing so you can implement what advice your given read this a few time sto get it in whats being said dont look for a diet of which you cannot apply long term, your not getting anything with more advice YOU tell me what YOUR doing this is to show that even if you were given a diet plan it bwould only contain pro fat and carb (of course) so its best to see what your doing YOURSELF not me tell you something yuou cannot even apply or maintain. ok.... i.. give you ..er..say..120 grams pro and 2500 calories..so what!....is it higher or lower than what YOU are doing now! You dont know as someone here how to find out and you will find they dont know either! rofl vern wow this is hard work vern