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ChefX · 10-02-2005, 07:13 PM

winger... you shouldnt notice the difference from creatine unless your current diet is really bad (as most are aka wrong food choices)

It should be very very suttle at best, don't think of it as a drug but as another food you should have for variety (in small enough amounts)
hmm $15 for 400g of creatinbe at 1g per use thats 400 doses and only 4 doses max a week thats 100 days woth at $15 so 60 cents a week (4g) or is that around 30 pence a week in pounds?

winger · 10-02-2005, 07:56 PM

Thanks ChefX, I quess I should go buy some then. I just can see spending money on stuff that is not working for me. Thanks again ChefX.

ChefX · 10-02-2005, 08:59 PM

winger in the alchemy it explains about supps better and covers why you take them. Everyone keeps looking at supps to be steroids, their not, they are additional food choices that improve the diet. So your diet needs to be perfect 9not good or ok but perfect) then add in the supps in the order I layed out and you will get exactly out of them what I say in there. Its that simple.

winger · 10-02-2005, 09:03 PM

I will do that. I actually have a question for you. Right now I am taking this coloidal minerals with vitamins. Kinda strong liquid actually. I think I am sleeping better actually. Are coloidal minerals any good? Dont laugh yet, but did you ever hear that tape "Dead doctors dont lie?"

SportDr · 10-02-2005, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirty barry

That geezer in ur pic has a little chest... is it a pic of u SD as u didnt reference

Chefx...fair play for puttin urself through that for others

Lol, I would love definition like that, almost like I had no skin!

better than being a skinny git like u DB

SD

DB · 10-02-2005, 10:28 PM

:boohoo:

SA12 · 10-02-2005, 11:07 PM

Danny,

You may find the link here helpful.

Its an article all about creatine. A little extra reading won't harm

ChefX · 11-02-2005, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winger

I will do that. I actually have a question for you. Right now I am taking this coloidal minerals with vitamins. Kinda strong liquid actually. I think I am sleeping better actually. Are coloidal minerals any good? Dont laugh yet, but did you ever hear that tape "Dead doctors dont lie?"

Your joking right? :confused:

I have heard the tape and researched it.
I don't use them.
I have tried them.
I have researched them.
I still don't use them.

reedit below:
From the tape And reality

Since physicians have a life expectancy of only 58 years, how can you trust them with maintaining your health? Actually, physicians have a greater life expectancy (averaging 75-88 years) than the general population.

Mercury amalgam used in dental fillings causes multiple sclerosis. Not supported by any clinical research.

Many Americans suffer from "malabsorption disease." Certain diseases exist in which people have difficulty absorbing nutrients. However, Wallach is referring to a nonexistent condition which, like the long discredited idea of autointoxication, is based on concepts that ignore scientific research on gastrointestinal tract functioning.

Cystic fibrosis is preventable and 100% curable in its early stages. This statement is completely unfounded.

Five cultures around the world have average lifespans of 120-140 years. The key to their longevity is the consumption of colloidal mineral waters ("glacier milk"). No such long-lived cultures exist or ever has.

Claims to have authored over 70 articles in peer-reviewed journals as well as several medical texts. Searchs of standard indexes have turned up only a handful of publications, nearly all of which are of dubious quality and MLM.

Claims to have performed 20,500 animal and human autopsies while working as a veterinarian in St. Louis. Even if veterinarians and naturopaths were allowed to conduct human autopsies (which they are not), Wallach would had to have performed them at a rate of 6 per day, 5 days a week, for 12 years in addition to his other duties and while authoring his numerous (though unfindable) articles.

Standard vitamins are not digested but pass out in the feces still in tablet form. An unsubstantiated anecdote.

States that 50% of 70-year-old Americans have Alzheimer's disease. The actual figure for Americans between 65-74 years of age is 3.9%.

Claims to have cured cases of porcine Alzheimers. Pigs don't get Alzheimer's disease.

Greying hair and facial wrinkles at any age are due to a copper deficiency. Not supported by clinical research.

Cardiomyopathy is solely the result of a selenium deficiency. Cardiomyopathy is a group of heart-muscle disorders with several different causes.

All aneurysms (over 40 different kinds) are due to a copper deficiency. Not supported by clinical research.

Male-pattern baldness is due to a tin deficiency. Not supported by clinical research.

Bell's palsy is the result of a calcium deficiency. The usual cause is compression of the facial nerve.

Diabetes and hypoglycemia are due to vanadium and chromium deficiencies. Not supported by clinical research.

Sodium consumption is unrelated to high blood pressure in humans. As evidence he notes that cows use salt licks, but don't suffer from high blood pressure. Animals use salt licks as needed. Sodium intake affects blood pressure in people who are salt-sensitive and over do salt intake from proccessed foods.

Periodontal disease is the result of a calcium deficiency and is not influenced by the quality of oral hygiene. Not supported by clinical research.

All low back pain is due to osteoporosis. An absurd idea; the most common causes are muscle and ligament strains from overexertion.

Metallic minerals (i.e., regular vitamins and minerals) are only 8-12% absorbable while colloidal minerals are 98% absorbable. No data support such a claim; the figures appear to have been pulled out of thin air.

The human body transports, stores, and uses minerals in colloidal form. This is simply not true; minerals inevitably occur either as mineral salts, compounded with proteins or lipids, or as enzymal and hormonal components.

**hackskii** · 11-02-2005, 08:12 PM

Wow, I have heard the tape too and the guys sounds good to hear but Chef's post was awesome.

Thanks Chef......

winger · 12-02-2005, 02:23 AM

I do take what I hear with a grain of salt. Thanks for clearing up that tape. He does sound convincing though. It does seem like I sleep better though.

Maybe I will just up the calcium and call it quits.........lol.

**hackskii** · 12-02-2005, 03:00 AM

Oh Winger, just up the Valarian Root, Melatonin, and the L-Triptophan and you will sleep really hard!!!!!!
After the "6" pack of beer this will compliment the mix above

Why "I" otta!!!!!!! :axe:

winger · 12-02-2005, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hackskii

Oh Winger, just up the Valarian Root, Melatonin, and the L-Triptophan and you will sleep really hard!!!!!!
After the "6" pack of beer this will compliment the mix above

Why "I" otta!!!!!!! :axe:

Oh damn, why didn't he just say so. Silly me
I will try that. For some reason the ghb needs a little kick................lol

10-02-2005, 07:13 PM	#16 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	winger... you shouldnt notice the difference from creatine unless your current diet is really bad (as most are aka wrong food choices) It should be very very suttle at best, don't think of it as a drug but as another food you should have for variety (in small enough amounts) hmm $15 for 400g of creatinbe at 1g per use thats 400 doses and only 4 doses max a week thats 100 days woth at $15 so 60 cents a week (4g) or is that around 30 pence a week in pounds? __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

10-02-2005, 07:56 PM	#17 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	Thanks ChefX, I quess I should go buy some then. I just can see spending money on stuff that is not working for me. Thanks again ChefX. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-02-2005, 08:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	winger in the alchemy it explains about supps better and covers why you take them. Everyone keeps looking at supps to be steroids, their not, they are additional food choices that improve the diet. So your diet needs to be perfect 9not good or ok but perfect) then add in the supps in the order I layed out and you will get exactly out of them what I say in there. Its that simple. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

10-02-2005, 09:03 PM	#19 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	I will do that. I actually have a question for you. Right now I am taking this coloidal minerals with vitamins. Kinda strong liquid actually. I think I am sleeping better actually. Are coloidal minerals any good? Dont laugh yet, but did you ever hear that tape "Dead doctors dont lie?" __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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10-02-2005, 11:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
SA12 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK Posts: 1,363	Danny, You may find the link here helpful. Its an article all about creatine. A little extra reading won't harm __________________ SA12

11-02-2005, 08:12 PM	#24 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	Wow, I have heard the tape too and the guys sounds good to hear but Chef's post was awesome. Thanks Chef...... __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-02-2005, 02:23 AM	#25 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,260 Blog Entries: 1	I do take what I hear with a grain of salt. Thanks for clearing up that tape. He does sound convincing though. It does seem like I sleep better though. Maybe I will just up the calcium and call it quits.........lol. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

12-02-2005, 03:00 AM	#26 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,185	Oh Winger, just up the Valarian Root, Melatonin, and the L-Triptophan and you will sleep really hard!!!!!! After the "6" pack of beer this will compliment the mix above Why "I" otta!!!!!!! :axe: __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.