Current diet 1 week in.. - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

McRoNiX · 08-02-2005, 08:09 PM

Hey,
I'm 6 2", 156lbs and vegetarian.
I'm one week into new diet and training for putting on muscle mass, heres a normal day..

Meal 1
Large bowl of cereal
multi vit tab
vit c tab

Meal 2
2 rounds of sandwiches, salad with lots of cottage cheese

Meal 3
Beans on toast (1 tin, 2 pieces of toast)

Meal 4 (before training)
Quorn meal (eg/ burgers, sausages, fillets), potatoes and veg

Meal 5 (after training)
Scrambled eggs (3-4 eggs, 2-3 slices)
1-2 pints of milk

Far from perfect but I've also come a long way.
I know my breakfast is especially week in protein.
I snack on bananas throughout the day (2-3 per day) and try to eat nuts when I can.
I've bought some lentils but am currently looking for some good recipes ;)

I think protein shakes are the way to go, eg/ mixed in with oats in morning, and one before training or something?
Any help gratefully appreciated.
Cheers.

ChefX · 08-02-2005, 08:22 PM

What is with all the vegetarians in the UK?

McRoNiX · 08-02-2005, 08:48 PM

lol, its a conspiracy chef

Any help with the diet though?

DB · 08-02-2005, 08:57 PM

man u really shoot urself in the foot bein a veggie..but hey u are so we cant change that!!

drop some egg in with some oats for breakie...eggs are the way to go my friend (i have a minimum of 6 a day) also cotage cheese and milk are also fairly good... protien shakes are good for convienence but can never replace whole food unfortunatly...
bein a veggie carbs arn't very hard to come by but ur protein sorces are limited as u well know...

obviously up the greens mate its lackin hard which will be a good sorce of nutrients and carbs!!

one more thing how can u live without bacon mate??

have to eat it daily!

**hackskii** · 08-02-2005, 09:13 PM

Toss a scoop or two of whey protein in the oats or your cereal, tastes better too.

Eggs are good.
Eat some nuts, Almonds might be best.
Some vegetarians eat tofu but I have read soy based protein can raise estrogen so not sure if this would be a good idea.

I also hear vegetarians suffer from deficiencies in creatine and vitamin B12 so you might want to add that into your diet. Also zinc might be good to add too.

ChefX · 08-02-2005, 11:32 PM

McRonix
I'm working on a vege diatia for the furture
so far what I have found that works best...
Replace the meats in my diatia with a shake consiting of whey protein (desighner), cottage cheese (whole fat), yogurt (whole fat) and water (you need to look up the exact values for each meat and its measurement and then mix this up to match it exactly for each meal, not just general as every is designed in combinations in my diatia).

If you can keep in the eggs, and fish at the very least.

yeah you loose out on all of the extermely good health benefits of meats like natural cla and optimal saturated fats (yes sat fat is good for you in a balanced athletic diet) ect ect ect

I assume you are doing it for religous reasons???

ChefX · 08-02-2005, 11:34 PM

hackskii
vege's suffer from massive shortages of many many vits/min/other key items found only in meats

McRoNiX · 08-02-2005, 11:47 PM

No, he's listed the main ones, except I dont think creatine applies.
I take multi vits and eat lots of eggs/dairy/veg so I get most vits I need.
Proteins the main problem.

McRoNiX · 08-02-2005, 11:52 PM

Not religious, partly ethic and partly choice.
Never was a huge meat fan, nor fish.
Just a way of life for me now.

ChefX · 09-02-2005, 12:17 AM

This is usually where I go into the speach about truth, honesty and how to be honest I would have to tell you that you are robbing yourself of a healthy life by not eating meats... BUT it is your choice. So I'll drop it.
You can still follow my diatia (and should) but use the substitutes I outlined above, it would be essential you follow the top 5 iitems in my alchemy as well or your screwing yourself out of optimal living or even just getting by.

**hackskii** · 09-02-2005, 01:44 AM

Yah, I dont know alot about vegitarian diets but I do know that some swear by them.
Might be good for acid ashing and alkaline ashing tho, raising the bodys PH for good health.
I do know that meats tend to lower PH but if taken in with a vegetable and minerals then this will curb the lower PH values of the acid ashing of the meats.
Fats are neutral in PH, but good for eicasinoid production and test production.

Rant over.
I would like to read more about vegitarian diets and weigh the benifits to loss values in health.

ChefX · 09-02-2005, 02:27 AM

The bodies ph is so exact, the diet doesnt do a thing for that, salt and water controls almost all of your ph, that whole ph thing was another myth/fad like the diet for blood stuff and many many other things

**hackskii** · 09-02-2005, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChefX

The bodies ph is so exact, the diet doesnt do a thing for that, salt and water controls almost all of your ph, that whole ph thing was another myth/fad like the diet for blood stuff and many many other things

So minerals aside from Salt dont effect PH?
Of course they do.
I feel that cancer and desease thrives in an acidic environment.
Raising PH through eating foods that have minerals are vital for good health.

dk246 · 09-02-2005, 03:16 AM

:confused: cos hes a vegie does this mean he cant have chicken??? :confused:

lol joke

emagine no kfc's id shoot ma self

winger · 09-02-2005, 03:32 AM

Oh man a vegetarian that ate fish and eggs!

08-02-2005, 08:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
McRoNiX Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sussex Posts: 322	Current diet 1 week in.. Hey, I'm 6 2", 156lbs and vegetarian. I'm one week into new diet and training for putting on muscle mass, heres a normal day.. Meal 1 Large bowl of cereal multi vit tab vit c tab Meal 2 2 rounds of sandwiches, salad with lots of cottage cheese Meal 3 Beans on toast (1 tin, 2 pieces of toast) Meal 4 (before training) Quorn meal (eg/ burgers, sausages, fillets), potatoes and veg Meal 5 (after training) Scrambled eggs (3-4 eggs, 2-3 slices) 1-2 pints of milk Far from perfect but I've also come a long way. I know my breakfast is especially week in protein. I snack on bananas throughout the day (2-3 per day) and try to eat nuts when I can. I've bought some lentils but am currently looking for some good recipes ;) I think protein shakes are the way to go, eg/ mixed in with oats in morning, and one before training or something? Any help gratefully appreciated. Cheers.

08-02-2005, 08:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	What is with all the vegetarians in the UK? __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

08-02-2005, 08:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
DB UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 11,412	man u really shoot urself in the foot bein a veggie..but hey u are so we cant change that!! drop some egg in with some oats for breakie...eggs are the way to go my friend (i have a minimum of 6 a day) also cotage cheese and milk are also fairly good... protien shakes are good for convienence but can never replace whole food unfortunatly... bein a veggie carbs arn't very hard to come by but ur protein sorces are limited as u well know... obviously up the greens mate its lackin hard which will be a good sorce of nutrients and carbs!! one more thing how can u live without bacon mate?? have to eat it daily! __________________ DB To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. often imitated never duplicated To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DB sleeps with a night light. Not because DB is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of DB. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by DB; 08-02-2005 at 08:59 PM.

08-02-2005, 09:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,642	Toss a scoop or two of whey protein in the oats or your cereal, tastes better too. Eggs are good. Eat some nuts, Almonds might be best. Some vegetarians eat tofu but I have read soy based protein can raise estrogen so not sure if this would be a good idea. I also hear vegetarians suffer from deficiencies in creatine and vitamin B12 so you might want to add that into your diet. Also zinc might be good to add too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

08-02-2005, 11:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	McRonix I'm working on a vege diatia for the furture so far what I have found that works best... Replace the meats in my diatia with a shake consiting of whey protein (desighner), cottage cheese (whole fat), yogurt (whole fat) and water (you need to look up the exact values for each meat and its measurement and then mix this up to match it exactly for each meal, not just general as every is designed in combinations in my diatia). If you can keep in the eggs, and fish at the very least. yeah you loose out on all of the extermely good health benefits of meats like natural cla and optimal saturated fats (yes sat fat is good for you in a balanced athletic diet) ect ect ect I assume you are doing it for religous reasons??? __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

08-02-2005, 08:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
McRoNiX Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sussex Posts: 322	lol, its a conspiracy chef Any help with the diet though?

08-02-2005, 11:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	hackskii vege's suffer from massive shortages of many many vits/min/other key items found only in meats __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

08-02-2005, 11:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
McRoNiX Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sussex Posts: 322	No, he's listed the main ones, except I dont think creatine applies. I take multi vits and eat lots of eggs/dairy/veg so I get most vits I need. Proteins the main problem.

08-02-2005, 11:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
McRoNiX Gym Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sussex Posts: 322	Not religious, partly ethic and partly choice. Never was a huge meat fan, nor fish. Just a way of life for me now.

09-02-2005, 12:17 AM	#10 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	This is usually where I go into the speach about truth, honesty and how to be honest I would have to tell you that you are robbing yourself of a healthy life by not eating meats... BUT it is your choice. So I'll drop it. You can still follow my diatia (and should) but use the substitutes I outlined above, it would be essential you follow the top 5 iitems in my alchemy as well or your screwing yourself out of optimal living or even just getting by. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

09-02-2005, 01:44 AM	#11 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,642	Yah, I dont know alot about vegitarian diets but I do know that some swear by them. Might be good for acid ashing and alkaline ashing tho, raising the bodys PH for good health. I do know that meats tend to lower PH but if taken in with a vegetable and minerals then this will curb the lower PH values of the acid ashing of the meats. Fats are neutral in PH, but good for eicasinoid production and test production. Rant over. I would like to read more about vegitarian diets and weigh the benifits to loss values in health. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

09-02-2005, 02:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
ChefX Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: A Secret Laboratory outside of Washington DC Posts: 1,870	The bodies ph is so exact, the diet doesnt do a thing for that, salt and water controls almost all of your ph, that whole ph thing was another myth/fad like the diet for blood stuff and many many other things __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* *The Regimen X Bodybuilding System by The Family of X* In the great Greek poem by Constantine Cavafy titled "Ithaka," We are reminded that it is the voyage and the adventures on the way that count, not the arrival itself.

09-02-2005, 03:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
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09-02-2005, 03:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
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