ChefX

I'm sorry I do stand corrected I was refering to mineral salts and these minerals/salts are completely controlled by fluid balance aka water. If you take in enough of your mineral/salts and drink enough water you can't effect your blood ph with food enough to cause effect. nope notta cant. (but exercise can)

pH of the plasma ( pH of the plasma of whole blood = conventional "blood" pH) is controlled at 7.4 (7.35 - 7.45).

Notice how small of a range that is?

Now go get your blood tested and try to change that ph through food, try really really hard and see what happens. It will stay in that range.

Now in support of what you are saying, Theoretically, opposite pH changes could occur in body zones from shifts of acid or base from one point of the body to another. Proving that such a change has occurred has been impossible so far.

have you ever changed your ph through say too much work load aka exercise and thrown up. That change is so small its not funny and the result is puking.

The PH of blood typing and foods for health are a myth. I'm sorry to say that as I wish it wasn't it would be an instant and quick cure.

IMHO

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OK that post came out wayy worse than I intended. please don't take it in any nasty way.

But there just are so many myths in medicine and nutrition (especially holistic nutrition)

we know a really well balnced diet is best. down the middle. simple. its not a miracle though.

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hey chef where the hell u learn all this stuff

i still get stuck adding the pl8s up in the gym!!! lol
share ur secret

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My secret. LOL no one every really wants to know the secret, that ruins it for everyone. Put it this way, I got an early start, I learn very fast and I got some very influential help. If you want to accelerate your learning, ask. I teach a class on it every now and again. I used to require all my trainers who worked for me to take it.

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So what about gout??? isnt that caused mainly through too high a count of acid in the blood.

Or athritis which can be dramatically reduced if you remove acid forming foods from the diet,like excessive meat intake as an example and increase alkaline foods as in fruit and veg.

Or heartburn which for most people is down to too much of the wrong food ie acid forming foods and the body producing too much acid hence the acid reflux,which 9 times out of ten can be cured by eating a higher intake of fruits which are alkaline forming(as long as yu eat the sweet variety of fruits not acid ones)

ChefX

I should drop this now to prevent a stir, but I'll pursue it a bit further.

The pain and swelling of gout are caused by uric acid crystals that deposit in the joint. Uric acid is a substance that normally forms when the body breaks down waste products called purines. Uric acid usually is dissolved in the blood and passes through the kidneys into the urine. In people with gout, the uric acid level in the blood is so high (not the blood PH and alkalines will not alter these crystals, they need enzymes like the ones found in cherries) that uric acid crystals are deposited in joints and other tissues. This causes the joint lining (the synovium) to become inflamed. Uric acid is produced by the body. Controlling the bodies reactions are the answer to controlling gout, not PH. By the way ever notice how circulation slows down in larger fatter people and how they get gout? Since the blood can not remove the crystals 9which are natural) from the body they get built up in regions and people develope gout, if you have them just loose some fat and exercise the gout clears up. Exercise raises acid levels in the blood, it should make gout worse if ph is to blame but its actually the cure. (same for below)

arthritis - there are more than 100 different types of arthritis and the cause/treatment is different for each. Some things are the immune system attackting the joint tissue (this is starting to show up with dnp users now in research big time by the way), bacterial and viral attacks, damage from impact and yes, poor nutrition as well. PH is not one of them. Again when people switch from eating junk to eating vegetables (what they consider a low alkaline diet0 they feel better, it is not the alkalinity or Ph of the diet, its the nutrition. Also people who are overweight have a higher frequency of arthritis (its the weight and lack of musclular support).

heartburn - a big one for many, Excess - Coffee, tea, Chocolate, Fried and fatty foods, Tomatoes and tomato-based products, Alcohol, Tobacco and Citrus juices, tend to "relax" the lower esophageal sphincter (LES). They allow the reflux of stomach contents into the esophagus. It also can "increase" the production of stomach acid. (not the blood ph)

Large meals, Eating within 2 to 3 hours prior to bedtime & Wearing tight fitting clothing
A full stomach can put extra pressure on the lower esophageal sphincter (LES), which will increase the chance that some of this food will reflux into the esophagus. Also Lying down with a full stomach and clothing that fits tightly around the abdomen will squeeze the stomach.



NOW here is the situation, I understand why and what about this discussion because I am both an MD and a ND I have sudied both sides, but I still work at the base. the above is only IMHO not facts. It is for a discussion and does not mean anyone else is wrong, it is only my reasons and observances.

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just like to add to the above about heartburn.

If you get it dont waste your time on antacid drugs from the chemist eat some fruit instead a hell of a lot helthier for you than those antacid formulas the drug companies keep pumping out.

Biggest con in the drug industry.

the more you use em the more you`ll "HAVE TO US THEM" in later years.

ChefX

man you are sooo right there. That is really the advice of all time. How many people never make a lifestyle change at all, they just take the pill. ICK

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Guys... Sorry to have to be the one to ask...

But this was started by a newbie to the forum in order to get help for his diet and has turned into a thread completely irrelevant (Interesting, but irrelevant) to his original question.

Can someone give this guy help with is diet? :p

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Ive also read that if you cut the acid down too much (in the stomach) then the stomach acid might not be acidic enough to kill off the germs eaten in food.
Which can pass throught the stomach and end up giving you a chest infection.


That was some good reads guys and I enjoyed reading that alot.



But I have tested my urine and saliva for PH using Liptmus paper and the PH does change depending on the foods I eat.
So I guess it is the blood that has the least effect on PH so as not to worry if the urine is low in PH?
When I get heartburn, I have used green tea extract and it clared it up pretty fast.

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ChefX

I thought I did answer the question
and then when the questions came from that
I asnwered them as best I could IMO.
That would make it relevant to the post.
BUT I seem to be wrong or missing something.
Sorry

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Your urine is the waste from your blood, so its ph doesn't apply to your body. like ketosis, if you are in ketosis but consuming less calories than you urn at best it will show is trace. which is not really what the blood is showing.

Sorry SA still OT

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Dont take things so personally...

I was just trying to get things back on topic...

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gotcha
no worries then

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Bananas(sweet fruit) work best for me.


I`ve also seen this but it was written that "ALL" or "A LOT" of the virus`s germs today could be beaten by the use of better blood ph levels and that the acid in the stomach kills something in the region of about 95% of all the germs we take in,hence the snot/mucus that constantly runs down the back of your throat for the body to kill the germs/virus`s in in and to make antibodies for it in the fututre.


If your showing raised acid levels in your urine surely that has to come from somewhere ie your blood??????

so at some point your blood has had to have a raised acid level for it to clear itself and push the excess acid into your urine through your kidney??????


As a personel test I use on myself as to wether there is animbalance within myself is taken from chinese medicine in that if you are hot/acidic then that will show through your stomach and along the meridian lines to a point in or just under your traps were you get a pinching feeling,most people just put this down to being tensed or stressed when in fact its your stomach/blood/innerself that is in an imbalance.

So when I get this feelling I cut back on the food/spices or anything stimulating and increase the fruits and veg and within a day or so i`m feeling great.