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Old 21-11-2008, 04:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Please dont laugh!

okay so I'm thinking ....my stats
weight 59.8kg
hieght 6" 0"
body fat 3%



I have always had a really thin frame from the day I was born. My sixpack shows really good....but so does my ribs...
Doctor says there's nothing wrong with me, I am eating over 3000cals a day and going to the gym 6 times a week with a good rutine including compound exercises but it sure isnt doing anything for me....3 years later and my metabolism is still at it without me doing any cardio!

I know all about steroids from injecting it to bulking to cutting, pct... Im 19 years old and my freinds have been bugging me to hit up a couple of cycles and im thinking about it.. my confidence is really down... so Im asking all the experienced member on the forum to tell me what they think.

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Old 21-11-2008, 06:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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hello mate,

Firstly, what does your diet look like?
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Old 21-11-2008, 07:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi mate...first thing too young for gear.
If your metabolism is that fast 6 training sessions a week are too many
Post your diet and training and we'll go from there
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Old 21-11-2008, 07:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
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typical day


Meal 1
3 eggs
weetabix or some bread
protein shake

Meal 2
tuna sandwich
fruit smoothie

Meal 3
footlong subway sandwich meal

Meal 4
protein shake

Meal 5
Rice with some meat


training

mon -back/biceps/forearms
tues -chest/triceps/abs
wed -shoulders/legs
thurs -back/biceps/forearms
frid -chest/triceps/abs
satur -shoulders/legs
sun - rest

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Old 21-11-2008, 07:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Laugh?! Some people would kill to have your metabolism
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Old 21-11-2008, 07:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Too much training and not enough eating
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Old 21-11-2008, 07:47 AM   #7 (permalink)
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More carbs, like brown rice, oats, wholewheat pasta etc.


Do a 3 day split, don't work the same group of muscles more than once a week.
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Old 21-11-2008, 08:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ok mate..you're nowhere near 3000kcal, you're nowhere near 2000 for that matter...anyway just a suggestion

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typical day


Meal 1
3 eggs 4 eggs
weetabix 3/4


Meal 2
tuna sandwich not enough, replace with:
80gr rice
180gr tuna/chicken/turkey
1 tbsp olive oil/light mayo
fruit smoothie

Meal 3
footlong subway sandwich meal ?really?
30gr whey protein
1 peanut butter sandwich

Meal 4
SAME AS 2

Meal 5
30gr whey peotein
80gr oats
1 tbsp peanut butter

Meal 6
Rice with some meat ??quantities??
80gr rice
180gr red meat/salmon
30gr almonds

Add a 35gr protein 40gr carbs Shake after training

training

mon -back/biceps/
tues -REST
wed -shoulders/legs
thurs -REST
frid -chest/triceps/abs
satur -REST
sun - REST
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Old 21-11-2008, 08:59 AM   #9 (permalink)
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okay..thanks for the input guys...although I gotta ask how much time do you usually spend in the gym?.... I spend on average 1hr 15 minutes and I always keep it intense.
 
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Old 21-11-2008, 09:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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God i'm the same height as you, only 5% more bf but 25kgs heavier and i feel skinny!!! I'd agree with everyone else so far the only way you're going to grow is solid, lean and BIG calories....lots of complex carbs and good sources of protein....i'd agree with others about overtraining, that is my actual split that vince suggested and it's working well for me Seriously if you are training a lot the calories will be needed to build the muscle, maybe think about a weight gainer type shake as well to boost your cals up
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Old 21-11-2008, 09:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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As for time, an hour max for me...maybe 50mins of lifting and 10 mins of ab work to end on ab days. Intense is good but let yourself rest between each set properly and its good to have a wee warmup at the start too
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Old 21-11-2008, 09:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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no one laughs at problems like this and if they did, theyd be the ones laughed at, i was exactly the same as you, i started this lifting at only a 119lbs.

first of all,1. your overtraining because your training to many days and theres no way your eating enough to recover anyway, your diets probably not even 50% of 3000+cals per day, follow what vince posted, more complex carbs, more protein, try adding some oils in your diet for easy callories, natty peanut butter, almonds, whole eggs, olive oil, milk.

ive got some good news for you actually that very few realise, you know so called hard gainers like yourself and i, theres no such thing, just a lack of knowledge, were actually the luckiest people not the worst like you think because skinny guys can pack on the muscle the quickest and hardly any bodyfat because a guy of your bodytype will only ever pack on muscle, no matter how much you put away.
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okay..thanks for the input guys...although I gotta ask how much time do you usually spend in the gym?.... I spend on average 1hr 15 minutes and I always keep it intense.
60-70 mins should be enough to complete that routine. Make sure there's constant progression in your training...increase (even by 2lbs) your lifts every week or increase the number of reps.
And mate don't get too hung up on BF %...i rather doubt you're 3%...you'd probably be dead (or very ill) by now.
I don't reccomend weight gainers as they are just high calories from sugary carbs and also set dosage. Get yourself some good protein powder and some maltodextrin/waxy maize and make your own!
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Old 21-11-2008, 10:23 AM   #14 (permalink)
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sorry mate but you are not 3% bodyfat if you was then you would be very ill...you may be skinny but this does not mean you have that low bodyfat...how did you measure it?
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Old 21-11-2008, 11:04 AM   #15 (permalink)
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if you have a fast metabolism use it and eat the diet that vince has suggested but i would add alot of junk food to it aswell to get the calorie's up also adding olive oil to everything including shakes will help you get the cals up,

training wise just stick to these lifts and consitantly try to add weight to thye bar when you can and try to train 2-3 days a week
squats
deadlifts
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