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invisiblekid · 11-04-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by S.James.87

To many people want to get big today/tomorrow... well we all do a spose! but imo the key is grafting and aiming to be big in the long haul!

Nice post. It makes me chuckle when people say "I don't want to get massive" - like it's just that easy. It's almost like they think that if they eat chicken a couple of times a day or neck a few shakes they'll be Ronnie in a few months.

It's not a dig at the original poster, but just an observation on a lot of newbies.

S.James.87 · 11-04-2008, 03:45 PM

Yeah alot of new people get real excited when they get a new tub of whey or something... like its some form of 'magic potion'.

it doesnt actually get you big. you have to train your a** of for months and months eating well all day every day- thats to even see the slightest of gains.

sure we all want to reach dorian yates size or have the perfect body- but it just doesnt come over night.

same as invisiblekid- not taking a dig at anyone in particular, just think all newbies need to understand the basics ;)

irwit · 11-04-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wogihao

Just eat everything.

Meat with every meal, lots of cheese, potatos, pasta, beans, eggs, tofu.

Drink coke when your training.

Your soon gain weight.

Coke when training ? Ive read that coke is a diuretic. I wouldnt fancy a diuretic while training.

I havent drank anything except for water and sometimes milk for years ( expet for a cheeky beer at the weekends ;o) but canimagine quite the sugar rush on a can of coke. Not for me though

Slamdog · 11-04-2008, 05:32 PM

i wouldn't drink coke at all.... liquid sugar in fizzy coloured water... with added e numbers...

the gas in it would not be comfortable during a workout...

wogihao · 11-04-2008, 07:41 PM

Well I have never shat myself in the gym, its good for getting extra callories in and the energy bost during training.

But im all ears as to why its a bad idea?

Cymru · 11-04-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by irwit

"Shakes" is a pretty loose term. Depends what you are shaking mate. Whey protein would be best for you but have a read up on what whey protein actually is.

You shoudl be aiming for 6 meals a day each about 500kals,40 grams of protein per meal give or take. So a meal replacement shake should contain around 500 kals and 40 grams of protein. For This I personally use 3 oatabix, half a pink of skimmed milk and a big scoop of whey protein toped with water so the oatabix arent too thick. Shakes it every 5 mins for 30 mins so the oats really disolve and neck it.

Tastes like crap then? Haha. Is there no pre-made weight gain shakes available? (i.e just add milk, or water)

By the way, thanks very much for all your advice so far!

Cymru · 11-04-2008, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by invisiblekid

Nice post. It makes me chuckle when people say "I don't want to get massive" - like it's just that easy. It's almost like they think that if they eat chicken a couple of times a day or neck a few shakes they'll be Ronnie in a few months.

It's not a dig at the original poster, but just an observation on a lot of newbies.

I didn't mean it like that at all, sorry if it came across that way. What I meant was alot of people aim to get really big, and I know they work very hard at it, I'm not doubting that, but I'm not aiming for this. Yes, I want to get bigger obviously, but all I really want is to get clothes to fit better etc like I mentioned in the first post.

wogihao · 11-04-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cymru

Tastes like crap then? Haha. Is there no pre-made weight gain shakes available? (i.e just add milk, or water)

By the way, thanks very much for all your advice so far!

You can but a decent one will cost you £££ the cheap weight gainers are mostly just glucose.

its better to control whats going down your gullet as much as possible its way cheaper as well. you can vary the various % of carbs/protiens ect depending on your need. a pre made gainer is going to be a one size fits all type.

Slamdog · 11-04-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cymru

Tastes like crap then? Haha. Is there no pre-made weight gain shakes available? (i.e just add milk, or water)

By the way, thanks very much for all your advice so far!

there are loads, its just you are going to pay for it... usually at over inflated prices...

any of the online supplement stores will have loads of various makes..

http://www.affordablesupplements.co....php?cPath=2_20

http://monstersupplements.com/store/...27-lang-1.html

just to use two as an example... please don't take them as recommendation's or adverts, there are better deals to be had from some of the board sponsers.

Cymru · 11-04-2008, 10:08 PM

Cheers! I can see your point wogihao, definietly makes sense.

Cymru · 16-04-2008, 11:35 PM

I've seen some different whey protein stuff, does it matter which I go for? Would this : http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/ - be ok? Or maybe a flavoured one? http://www.myprotein.co.uk/mp-max/wh...protein-(2lb)/

get me big · 17-04-2008, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by S.James.87

To many people want to get big today/tomorrow... well we all do a spose! but imo the key is grafting and aiming to be big in the long haul!

yep i am so guilty but am working so hard and made visible gains in my first six weeks but its now i have seen the gains i want more and now lol:lift:

11-04-2008, 03:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
S.James.87 Aiming for perfection!! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: south west Posts: 85	Re: In need of help and advice please Yeah alot of new people get real excited when they get a new tub of whey or something... like its some form of 'magic potion'. it doesnt actually get you big. you have to train your a** of for months and months eating well all day every day- thats to even see the slightest of gains. sure we all want to reach dorian yates size or have the perfect body- but it just doesnt come over night. same as invisiblekid- not taking a dig at anyone in particular, just think all newbies need to understand the basics ;)

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wogihao Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,358	Re: In need of help and advice please Well I have never shat myself in the gym, its good for getting extra callories in and the energy bost during training. But im all ears as to why its a bad idea?

11-04-2008, 10:08 PM	#25 (permalink)
Cymru Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 88	Re: In need of help and advice please Cheers! I can see your point wogihao, definietly makes sense.

16-04-2008, 11:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
Cymru Newbie Trainer Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 88	Re: In need of help and advice please I've seen some different whey protein stuff, does it matter which I go for? Would this : http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powd...-whey-protein/ - be ok? Or maybe a flavoured one? http://www.myprotein.co.uk/mp-max/wh...protein-(2lb)/ Last edited by Cymru; 16-04-2008 at 11:40 PM.