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Five-O · 08-01-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by robbiedont

cool, thanks, tbh I don't have any cheat meals at the moment, I actually quite like eating healthy so sticking to it won't be difficult, I guess the problem up to now is I keep changing.

What do you think of my revised diet? Any changes that could be made?

One every now and then will stoke the metabolism mate, if you don't wish to add any then fair enough, thats totally down to you, as long as you know a couple here and there can actually do some good.

Robbie · 08-01-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-O

One every now and then will stoke the metabolism mate, if you don't wish to add any then fair enough, thats totally down to you, as long as you know a couple here and there can actually do some good.

Now that is interesting to know!

I'm not even sure what I would have as a cheat meal.

In fact, other than total junk food, what would class as a "cheat meal"?

**Jimmy** · 08-01-2008, 09:07 PM

diet looks pretty good

i feel the protein is a little too high for you, could be more carbs instead

i think there is a lack of fruit veg....more would be better

**Jimmy** · 08-01-2008, 09:09 PM

cheat meals??

decent ones are nado's, subway, roast dinners, curries

dirty ones are mac d's and pizza, chocolate, ice cream etc etc

choose 2 decent ones a week, and one duuuurty one

TH&S · 08-01-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy

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just get a base of protein....aprox 200g for you, then add or subtract fats and carbs as necessary as you go on

try start with

P200g---------800kcals
C350g---------1400kcals
F80g----------720kcals

also...keep it simple

dont count neglegable macros

i know bread contains protein, but its neglegable, and not necessary to include....same goes for veg etc

otherwise you will get confused with overcomplicatons

^^^ Agreed.

Dont bother counting non impact carbs from green veg etc - which you should try and eat more of.

At your weight and non drug assisted 200g of Protein is probably all if not more than your body will be able to use.

As Jimmy said - use the Protein as a base to shoot for each day, and manouever the carbs and fats to suit.

Robbie · 09-01-2008, 09:24 AM

ah. ok, I will start again with 200g of protein and work around that

thanks for your help so far chaps

TaintedSoul · 09-01-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TH&S

How much do you weigh? How much are you eating now? Will you *honestly* stick to this every day?

Diving into 4000kcals perhaps isn't the best way, just increase your macros a bit and monitor progress. If your training naturally and gaining more than 8lbs per month - odds are you are just getting fat.

Aim to gain 1lb per week, with your lifts progressing and BF% not increasing too much, altering your diet to stay around the 1lb per week gain.

Personally I wouldn't have to have that much fat and that many carbs in my diet...

150g Protein on a 1.5x basis makes you 100kgs - or almost 16st... I've a feeling your closer to 13 stone... So I think your macros are wrong...

Also 158g P + 458g C + 224g F = 4500kcals ED...

200g protein ED will be fine for you, 80g to 150g of good fats ED and carbs as required...

nice post mate.

TH&S · 09-01-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TaintedSoul

nice post mate.

Cheers dude.

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