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10-08-2007, 01:42 PM
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2007
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 | hello This is my first post on this board i have been looking at it for a while now though. im preparing for my second cycle now (just waiting on the nolva) is there any advice you would give me nutrition wise as although i did make some alrite gains on my last cycle I think i can castly improve if i sort out my nutrition. I am goin to do a 6 week course of D-Bol 40mg per day with 20mg of nolva per day starting on week two. I am also trying to soure anavar for towards the end of the cycle but this is proving difficult (or to expensive lol) any advice would be appreciated cheers |
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10-08-2007, 02:26 PM
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: hello i have got 100 nolva tabs on order the 10 mg ones so i should do, although im not sure what doasge i should take as on my last cycle i didnt take any nolva. I have read that 20mg per day should be sufficient with 40 mg of d-bol but if thats not right please let me no. at the moment i have recently changed my diet this is what im doing at the moment. ( I will include the supplements i am taking ) Morning dissected liver 3 tabs Weatabix lunch tuna with wholemeal pitta bread dinner some sort of chicken, meat or pasta amino acids before training 4 creatine caps after training 3 creatine caps before bed 3 ZMA caps I am sticking to this diet as i put alot of weight on since my last cycle. around 2 stone. I am goin to run the d-bol 5 days a week so my liver has a rest on the weekend but will still use the nolva over the weekend |
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10-08-2007, 03:01 PM
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| Looking Freaky  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North London
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 | Re: hello JL87, Mate with the diet you are running there is no way you should be running a cycle there is no where near enough food in your day. General Rules 1. Eat every 2-3 hours 2. 1.5g to 2g of protein per pound of body weight 3. 3 day split for training 4. Always have post work out shake (simple carb and protein in it) You need a meal between breaky and lunch and the same between lunch and dinner plus after dinner you train so after training you need a PWO shake which will help you recover and help while you sleep. If you like I can post up a diet more suited let us lads no what you need we help to the best of our ability. What are your stats, age, how long trained, how train, original weight and weight now things like that will help alot more when trying to put together a bulking diet for ya |
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10-08-2007, 03:06 PM
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| Getting HUGE!  Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: UK
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 | Re: hello Breakfast: Oats 4 Eggs Apple Mid Morning: Mackeral Protein Shake Two Oranges Banana Midday: Chicken Breast Broccoli Jacket Potatoe Protein Shake Mid Afternoon: Almonds 2 Eggs Protein Shake Tea: Chicken / Steak Boiled Rice Broccoli Mixed Vegatables Bed Time: Protein Shake Something along those lines is the sort of quantity you want to be aiming for. What you have posted is no where near enough food. A good, high protein diet can be just as anabolic for your body as running a course of DBol so don't jump on the tabs until you have your diet sorted and gain the most you can naturally. |
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10-08-2007, 03:24 PM
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| Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire
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| Re: hello Quote:
What was your diet before you changed it? I don't believe you've gained two stone of muscle with a diet the resembles the one above. You may hold water given you are taking DBol - but I'd put money on it not being muscle. Feel free to prove me wrong. I doubt you'll keep the gains if that's your diet from now on either. Sorry for the pessimism. I mean you don't have any food or a shake PWO? Why? When was your last cycle? Last edited by invisiblekid; 10-08-2007 at 03:41 PM. | |
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10-08-2007, 04:19 PM
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: hello sorry bro i think you misunderstood i have gained two stone in weight (fat) since my last cycle hence the light diet. my last cycle was late last year but i got injured and couldnt train for 5 months and in that time i gained that weight. now i have been back training 5 days a week for the last 5 months. thanks for the advice on the diet as i said before i dont no alot about the diet and nutritional side of training. any help would be gratly appreciated. cheers. |
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10-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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| Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North London
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| Re: hello JL87... Some serious advice here dude, you have only just started to train again and you are already considering a cycle that is a simple no no your body is not even close to its natural potential and if you are trying to lose fat all dbol will do is bloat your more with water retention. I would seriously get your diet sorted, hit the cardio before breaky in the mornings for 30 to 45 mins and once you drop that fat train for a few more months ATLEAST before you even consider doing a cycle... I aint having a go at you dude but there is no way you will see the best out of your cycle if you are eating the way you do and overtraining which you are if you are doing weights 5 days a week, 3 day split is all that is need lad 2 days upper 1 day lower with ample rest in between. Only ever work a body part every 7-9 days as your muscle dont grow when working them but when you are resting. Make sure you are getting around 8 hours of good sleep a night. What was your injury that stopped you training? This is only advice each to there own but I guarantee the other lads will back me on this that jumping on a cycle this early on in your training is just not needed... Once you platuea after a few years then look at it. I trained for 3 years before I ran my first cycle. Best of luck JL87 |
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10-08-2007, 05:14 PM
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| Hitman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Yorkshire
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| Re: hello Quote:
07:00 5g BCAAs 07:10 30min Cardio 08:15 6 egg whites 1/2 Cup of Oats 10:30 Tuna Salad + Fish Oils 13:30 Chicken + Rice + Green Veg 16:00 Protein Shake + Almonds 17:00 Train 18:00 30mins Cardio 18:45 PWO Shake - Given you are trying to lose weight I'd consider 50g Whey and 30g Oats 20:00 White fish + Green Veg + Boiled Egg 22:30 Cottage Cheese Avoid having carb meals back to back and increase the GOOD fats. See how you go with that. You might want to look at carb cycling if this doesn't work for you. You may well need a carb up day with that diet anyway, depending on your body type. Give it ago and tailor the quantities to suit your body type and activity levels. Forget the cycle for now. Also, what was the injury? Let's have a look at your training as well. Last edited by invisiblekid; 10-08-2007 at 05:17 PM. | |
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10-08-2007, 06:31 PM
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| Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2007
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| Re: hello i tore my shoulder playing rugby. i couldnt move it properly and i kept felling sharp pains in it all the time until i recieved physio now it fine not as good as before but its 100 times better my training consists of pec 84 kg 10 reps 4 sets abs 45 kg 30 reps 5 sets bench 75 kg 10 reps 4 sets pull down 90 kg 10 reps 4 sets tri 70 kg 10 reps 4 sets bicep 40 kg 10 reps 4 sets leg press 100 kg 15 reps 4 sets 15 min bike 15 min run |
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