I cant eat enough - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

ALake · 13-02-2007, 09:18 PM

Hello, I want to gain some weight and have done some research regarding nutrition. I have heard people eatig 4000 calories, that seems insane to me. I usually eat around 2000 a day and if I push it 2500 but I struggle to eat more than that. I need some tips on increasing my appetit and being able to consume more.

Thanks

LEWIS · 13-02-2007, 09:27 PM

small meals at regualr intervals, aim for 5/6 a day for now. a protein shake can be one meal, along with oats for breakfast, make sure you have a protein shake after training also and eat within half hour of training.

your appitite will grow over time. eating the right things are the most importent aspects of nutrition not just the calories.

ah24 · 14-02-2007, 12:04 AM

Aim for a meal every 2hours-ish. Its amazing how many cals you can get in. Aim for around 3000 when you first start.
Go to the diet section for more info on diet plans, but 3 most important meals IMO are breakfast, pre workout and post workout

ALake · 14-02-2007, 12:11 AM

Breakfast is a major problem for me, I feel very nauseous in the morning and only feel like eating after about an hour.

I have been thinking about shakes for times when I really cant handle solid foods, does anyone have any recomendations, particually ones that have alot of protein?

I am wondeirng about fizzy drinks too, a bottle of pepsi has 250 cals but am I right in assuming they are useless cals?

ah24 · 14-02-2007, 12:32 AM

Firstly, breakfast is a MUST..are you getting the recommended 8 hours sleep each night? Wake up like an hour before you gotta be out and have your oats 1/2hour after you wake.

Secondly, shakes are handy yes, but should never be chosen over whole proper food. MRP's (Meal Replacement Products), protein shakes etc are 'supplements' and thats what we should do with them. Supplement them when needed
Myprotein have just bought out some MRP's yesterday, £20 for 20! Bargain, quid each - 80g packs, contains 40g of fast & slow acting proteins i think, good amount of carbs and EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids) http://www.myprotein.co.uk for more info

Lastly, yes calories in things like fizzy drinks, sweets etc are known as 'empty cals' = pretty useless.

Best sources for protein are: Chicken breast, Turkey breast, Tuna, any other meat/fish
Best sources of carbs: Sweet potato, Brown rice, Wholemeal Pasta
Best sources of good fats: Nuts (almonds), Peanut butter (pure PB), flaxseed oil, udos oil, fish oil capsules
Antioxidants: Pretty much any fruit or veg!

Bulldozer · 14-02-2007, 12:38 AM

Drink diet pepsi , got zero calories!

How much do you weigh mate?

ah24 · 14-02-2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bulldozer

Drink diet pepsi , got zero calories!

How much do you weigh mate?

Just drink water! Much healthier for you! If not water then smoothies.
All i drink usually is water, but i love water lol (yes im sad)

ALake · 14-02-2007, 02:04 AM

I am 19, about 6ft and Weigh about 150 lb, that is why I want to add some weight. I am too light for my height.

I just had an idea, what about when I dont feel hungry, smoking weed and getting the munchies, which is a common side effect when I have it. Although I understand it does damage health and I want to be really fit and healthy after years of being a lazy student.

Apparently a can of tuna has 30g of protein, so for 200g I need around 7 cans of tuna a day

just for the protein

SportDr · 14-02-2007, 07:40 AM

Needing an appetite just isn't a reason to abuse drugs my friend, this is a bodybuilding and sports community, not the meadows rehab clinic.

As above otherwise, small regular meals, increase cals form where you are now (2000) by 500 cals every 2 weeks until you are at desired calories(more like 3000-3500). The calories must be clean and if you are have been a lazy weed smoking student I just don't think you are going to bother making them that way, so go with MRPs if you can afford them.

Other ways to help digestion: do not drink more than 250ml of water with each meal, it dilutes your HCL slowing digestion. Add in Betain HCL caps before protein heavy meals, enzymes after (Bromelain, Papain, Protease etc)

SD

ah24 · 14-02-2007, 12:23 PM

Something that sounds a little sad but works for me to increase hunger (only had to do this on my first few days) was to go brush my teeth about 5mins before a meal, or chew chewing gum for 10mins.
With you chewing and the saliva etc it tricks your stomach into thinking your eating. I hate it in the mornings, i go have some huuuuge breakfast about to leave the house satisfied, go brush the teeth - within 3-4 mins im starving!:(

BrokenBack · 14-02-2007, 12:25 PM

Ive heard the herb ' Devils Claw' is surpost to increase appitite.

ah24 · 14-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Thing is though, if the meals are spaced out every 2 hours you shouldnt struggle too much. i actually get hungry between mine! So eat peanut butter in between, or almond nuts

Ecksarmy11 · 14-02-2007, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportDr

Needing an appetite just isn't a reason to abuse drugs my friend, this is a bodybuilding and sports community, not the meadows rehab clinic.

That's right we are all drug free on this board !!

As above otherwise, small regular meals, increase cals form where you are now (2000) by 500 cals every 2 weeks until you are at desired calories(more like 3000-3500). The calories must be clean and if you are have been a lazy weed smoking student I just don't think you are going to bother making them that way, so go with MRPs if you can afford them.

Other ways to help digestion: do not drink more than 250ml of water with each meal, it dilutes your HCL slowing digestion. Add in Betain HCL caps before protein heavy meals, enzymes after (Bromelain, Papain, Protease etc)

Great advice here.

SD

DannyBoy81 · 14-02-2007, 02:00 PM

I sometimes get that morning sick feeling and used to struggle to eat, but I find if i get a nice late nite snack in it really helps to get rid of the feeling and i can pretty much eat anything when I wake up...... and if i wake up in the nite for any reason I normally make a protien shake with some raw eggs and then back off to sleep.

leeston · 14-02-2007, 05:29 PM

i agree with comments made above. Once you get into the routine of eating breakfast at 06.30 and then again at 10.00, 13.00, 15.00, 18.00 and 21.00 hrs you stomach just accepts it and gets hungry in anticipation.

I eat as above and also get peckish in between meals. By eating regular and smaller meals stops that sluggish feeling you get and aids the metabolism so that when you do have a big meal (like my valentine's curry tonight) your body gets rid of it quicker!!!!

13-02-2007, 09:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
ALake Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norwich Posts: 204	I cant eat enough Hello, I want to gain some weight and have done some research regarding nutrition. I have heard people eatig 4000 calories, that seems insane to me. I usually eat around 2000 a day and if I push it 2500 but I struggle to eat more than that. I need some tips on increasing my appetit and being able to consume more. Thanks

13-02-2007, 09:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
LEWIS Getting HUGE! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: south wales Posts: 1,138	Re: I cant eat enough small meals at regualr intervals, aim for 5/6 a day for now. a protein shake can be one meal, along with oats for breakfast, make sure you have a protein shake after training also and eat within half hour of training. your appitite will grow over time. eating the right things are the most importent aspects of nutrition not just the calories.

14-02-2007, 12:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,761	Re: I cant eat enough Aim for a meal every 2hours-ish. Its amazing how many cals you can get in. Aim for around 3000 when you first start. Go to the diet section for more info on diet plans, but 3 most important meals IMO are breakfast, pre workout and post workout

14-02-2007, 12:11 AM	#4 (permalink)
ALake Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norwich Posts: 204	Re: I cant eat enough Breakfast is a major problem for me, I feel very nauseous in the morning and only feel like eating after about an hour. I have been thinking about shakes for times when I really cant handle solid foods, does anyone have any recomendations, particually ones that have alot of protein? I am wondeirng about fizzy drinks too, a bottle of pepsi has 250 cals but am I right in assuming they are useless cals?

14-02-2007, 12:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,761	Re: I cant eat enough Firstly, breakfast is a MUST..are you getting the recommended 8 hours sleep each night? Wake up like an hour before you gotta be out and have your oats 1/2hour after you wake. Secondly, shakes are handy yes, but should never be chosen over whole proper food. MRP's (Meal Replacement Products), protein shakes etc are 'supplements' and thats what we should do with them. Supplement them when needed Myprotein have just bought out some MRP's yesterday, £20 for 20! Bargain, quid each - 80g packs, contains 40g of fast & slow acting proteins i think, good amount of carbs and EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids) http://www.myprotein.co.uk for more info Lastly, yes calories in things like fizzy drinks, sweets etc are known as 'empty cals' = pretty useless. Best sources for protein are: Chicken breast, Turkey breast, Tuna, any other meat/fish Best sources of carbs: Sweet potato, Brown rice, Wholemeal Pasta Best sources of good fats: Nuts (almonds), Peanut butter (pure PB), flaxseed oil, udos oil, fish oil capsules Antioxidants: Pretty much any fruit or veg!

14-02-2007, 12:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Bulldozer craving a pizza :( Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,390	Re: I cant eat enough Drink diet pepsi , got zero calories! How much do you weigh mate? __________________ If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. ~ Anatole France To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

14-02-2007, 02:04 AM	#8 (permalink)
ALake Gym Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Norwich Posts: 204	Re: I cant eat enough I am 19, about 6ft and Weigh about 150 lb, that is why I want to add some weight. I am too light for my height. I just had an idea, what about when I dont feel hungry, smoking weed and getting the munchies, which is a common side effect when I have it. Although I understand it does damage health and I want to be really fit and healthy after years of being a lazy student. Apparently a can of tuna has 30g of protein, so for 200g I need around 7 cans of tuna a day just for the protein

14-02-2007, 07:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
SportDr Getting HUGE! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: E-Sussex UK Posts: 2,667	Re: I cant eat enough Needing an appetite just isn't a reason to abuse drugs my friend, this is a bodybuilding and sports community, not the meadows rehab clinic. As above otherwise, small regular meals, increase cals form where you are now (2000) by 500 cals every 2 weeks until you are at desired calories(more like 3000-3500). The calories must be clean and if you are have been a lazy weed smoking student I just don't think you are going to bother making them that way, so go with MRPs if you can afford them. Other ways to help digestion: do not drink more than 250ml of water with each meal, it dilutes your HCL slowing digestion. Add in Betain HCL caps before protein heavy meals, enzymes after (Bromelain, Papain, Protease etc) SD __________________ I don't like Sports and I am not a Doctor! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. You expressed and challenged yourself, startled the dozing muscles and welcomed the sweet pain of gain. Boredom begets mediocrity. Enemies both, they deserve swift eradication. Let's hit the weights and build some muscle. Race ya to the bench press. Dave Draper A goal casually set and lightly taken will be freely abandoned at the first obstacle. Zig Ziglar Any advice given is for information only, always seek the advice of your medical practitioner. Use this My Protein refferer code and get a 5% DISCOUNT on your first order! MP2819

14-02-2007, 12:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,761	Re: I cant eat enough Something that sounds a little sad but works for me to increase hunger (only had to do this on my first few days) was to go brush my teeth about 5mins before a meal, or chew chewing gum for 10mins. With you chewing and the saliva etc it tricks your stomach into thinking your eating. I hate it in the mornings, i go have some huuuuge breakfast about to leave the house satisfied, go brush the teeth - within 3-4 mins im starving!:(

14-02-2007, 12:25 PM	#11 (permalink)
BrokenBack Not as in the gay cowboy film, as in a back injury lol Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: uk Posts: 188	Re: I cant eat enough Ive heard the herb ' Devils Claw' is surpost to increase appitite. __________________ "Pain is temporary, pride is forever" "Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated." :lift:

14-02-2007, 01:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
ah24 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: crawley Posts: 2,761	Re: I cant eat enough Thing is though, if the meals are spaced out every 2 hours you shouldnt struggle too much. i actually get hungry between mine! So eat peanut butter in between, or almond nuts

14-02-2007, 02:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
DannyBoy81 Gym Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Middlesex Posts: 350	Re: I cant eat enough I sometimes get that morning sick feeling and used to struggle to eat, but I find if i get a nice late nite snack in it really helps to get rid of the feeling and i can pretty much eat anything when I wake up...... and if i wake up in the nite for any reason I normally make a protien shake with some raw eggs and then back off to sleep.

14-02-2007, 05:29 PM	#15 (permalink)
leeston Any more chicken and I will start clucking!! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, West Midlandshire Posts: 2,363	Re: I cant eat enough i agree with comments made above. Once you get into the routine of eating breakfast at 06.30 and then again at 10.00, 13.00, 15.00, 18.00 and 21.00 hrs you stomach just accepts it and gets hungry in anticipation. I eat as above and also get peckish in between meals. By eating regular and smaller meals stops that sluggish feeling you get and aids the metabolism so that when you do have a big meal (like my valentine's curry tonight) your body gets rid of it quicker!!!! __________________ Gobal terror they say that we are at war................ but I dont have time for that 'cos them bills keep dropping through my door. Suburban Knights, Hard-Fi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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