Tatyana

After some thought and having now been lean (10%) to a 'fattie' (25%) in the last 12 months, I have a few thoughts on the diets of you lads.

1. Bulking diets are just an excuse to eat like a pig and get fat in about 75% of cases

2. A lot of lads use the BBing diet as an excuse not to eat their fruit and veg

Actually, the 'cutting' diet is a load of poo too most of the time.

I have been tracking weight and body fat percentages, and in all honesty, as far as I can tell, I put on more muscle when I am in the 'lean' or athletic zone for women.

And my abs ARE showing.

How about just eating in a healthy way 95% of the time?

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DB

i think u should always be able to see an outline of abs all year round!!

so that would mean about 12%BF max imo

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Im with the penut head on this, tho i never had abs, so i juss pile on the KFC!!

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Captain Hero

I have noticed that I am still leanish and packing on muscle too, I know what you are saying Tat. I dont think I have ever been more than 15% bodyfat to be honest! I have gone from 10 stone to 11 and a half stone and kept roughly around the same bodyfat without eating too much crap.

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Tatyana

That is the bodyfat for men, for women it would be under 20%

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Tinytom

WTF?

I have been saying this for the past year.

Thanks for finally catching up Taty LMAO:love:

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RAIKEY

i think once you've been so low on BF its hard to get fat again,...even if the guilt angle keeps you clean...

i was happy to chow down on anything last year,....

but now, if i cant see the abs i aint a happy bunny,....and the lean gains are easier to moniter if you keep a stable lowish BF,.....

all the "i put two stone on during my last cycle/bulker!!" comments are a bit out there IMO,.....

2 stone in WEIGHT yeah ! but only a few pounds of good stuff.......

being HEAVY no longer hold an interest for me, unless its lean weight,...

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Tatyana

Just backing you up Muscles.

I think the penny dropped when Keyser said he was going on a bulking diet this fall.

I was inspired after your last post on my comp prep.

I don't think a BBer diet should change all that much on or off season. Just slightly more food off season, and you can 'cheat' a bit more


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Captain Hero

there was a much bigger post on this same subject a while back Tat, but I cant remember what it was called!

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i dont feel qualified to answer

Jay 69

I'm lean as well not sure of my bf% but i'm puttin on muscle to, when i started training just under a year ago i was 11stone and now i'm 14stone.I've never been able to put body fat on god knows i've tried so instead of eating loads like most of you guys i just try to eat the right stuff to make me grow.Maybe i could of put more mucsle on if i had of eaten more?.But i'm happy with my progress and will keep doing what i'm doing untill its slows to a halt.

hackskii

I agree, bulking when higher % bodyfat equals some muscle and fat.
Bulking when really lean is more muscle and less fat.

Cutting when fat equals more fat loss and less lean muscle.
Cutting when lean equals same fat loss and muscle loss.

John Berardi(sp) did a study on this, quite the impressive read.


Guys that want to bulk should cut first.
Article apon request.

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lean bulk all the way-
15% tops.

lol keyser on a bulker!

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Stanco

To me, bulking up means to gain muscle by any means. If that means to put on a bit of fat then thats it. I don't think anyone wants to itentially wants to put on fat.

Spangle1187

From my perspective ( and I am on a bulking cycle at the moment), I tend to eat more meals without salad and veg and go for the carbs and protein. I also can be a bit of a pig esp on cheat days when I think that I have not consumed enough cals. I do try to make up for this with veg/salad meals but not enough so I suppose that it could be seen as a excuse to get fat, but....my bf% which I dont know the number is not too high. I eat a lot of fruit, well bananas.
When I am inbetween cycles, my workout routine changes and I have more cardio days so that brings down my bf%. Oh no, maybe to a degree I do use it as a way to eat too much. Diet review coming up!:confused:

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