Bulking, and excuse to get FAT? - Page 2 - UK-Muscle Body Building Community

scott134 · 21-04-2007, 07:19 AM

I remember reading somewhere that keeping your BF down to a decent level, below 15% keep testosterone levels higher, which would lead to better gains when lean than when when fat.

**hackskii** · 21-04-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scott134

I remember reading somewhere that keeping your BF down to a decent level, below 15% keep testosterone levels higher, which would lead to better gains when lean than when when fat.

Correct, this is because the aromatase enzyme resides primarilly in belly fat.
More aromatase, more estrogen, more estrogen, less test (to a point).

CraigE18 · 14-12-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DB

i think u should always be able to see an outline of abs all year round!!

so that would mean about 12%BF max imo

I'm Glad I've found this thread.

I know its been a while and sorry for bringing it back up but I've been confused lately as to what 'Bulking' actually involves.

This is exactly the reason why i have been worried about a 'Bulking' diet. I'm pretty lean now. About 12% BF. I've been thinking whether it is worth bulkingup a little. i dont really have any idea. I'l post up a picture soon and see what everyone's opinion on the matter is. In all honesty, I'm pretty happy with what I'm got, but then there's the days where I wish I was a bit bigger.

Anyway, to the point - if I was to go on a Bulking diet, would this mean losing my definition and how much would it roughly increase my BF%..

Chris4Pez · 14-12-2007, 11:04 PM

I personally think that bulking diets are a good thing IMO as it helps put on size and muscle mass if done properly, HOWEVER bulking diets should not be an excuse to eat crap and then think oh its ok i am on a bulking diet as then the only thing you will be gaining is BF!

I think if you want to "BULK" what you should do is still eat clean but increase your daily calorie intake with all your macro's e.g Protein, Carbs, and also Fats this way you will be sure to add mass and "BULK" up

But hey thats just my opinion!!!!!!!

CraigE18 · 14-12-2007, 11:09 PM

So basically - if i choose to bulk up, the only thing I will be adding is Muscle. No BF?

Sorry if I seem a bit Dim-witted, I just don't want to put on any fat whatsoever.

Chris4Pez · 14-12-2007, 11:16 PM

No TBH m8 when ever you increase your calories there is a chance that you will put on BF however a dietitian(sp) for a professional BB told me this if its true or not i don't know but he said the way to bulk is increase your calories, if you eat more you will obviously get bigger, however if you start putting on BF then the thing you have to do is drop your carbs a little, if you are losing weight up your carbs, if you are at the same weight e.g no more BF or muscle mass then again increase your carbs!

However it is important to know your initial BF and to be able to have it taken correctly by someone who knows how to do it, with skin calipers if you can!

Its all a game of trial and error, but the beauty of it is if your already a low BF then you will be able to notice BF more easy than someone with a higher BF count than you, which means if you do start to put it on by dropping your carbs but maintaining your protein high you should lose it again!

does that make sense?

CraigE18 · 15-12-2007, 01:33 AM

Yeah that makes perfect sense bud. Thanks for the input.

Sorry about the late reply...I got caught up in the 'daps progess thread'. Its taken me this long to read it since my last post.

Chris4Pez · 15-12-2007, 01:38 AM

lol no worries m8, don't be afraid to play around with it TBH if you gain a little BF you can always lose it by doing an extra bit of cardio!

CraigE18 · 15-12-2007, 01:45 AM

Thanks again Chris.

I think i'm going to have to experience some trial and error. But anything that brings results its good for me.

Anyway I'm off. 01:45 :confused:

Take it easy man

Chris4Pez · 15-12-2007, 01:58 AM

and you m8 let me know how you get on!!!!

**hackskii** · 15-12-2007, 06:32 PM

The higher percentage of bodyfat will allow this person to cut and lose less muscle than the person that has low bodyfat.

The person with low bodyfat will put on more muscle than the person with higher percent of bodyfat when bulking.

If you are 12 percent then by all means do a clean bulk.
If you are 22 percent then by all means cut first before a clean bulk.

TH&S · 31-12-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hackskii

The higher percentage of bodyfat will allow this person to cut and lose less muscle than the person that has low bodyfat.

The person with low bodyfat will put on more muscle than the person with higher percent of bodyfat when bulking.

If you are 12 percent then by all means do a clean bulk.
If you are 22 percent then by all means cut first before a clean bulk.

^^^^ Totally agree assuming BB'ing is the goal.

Con · 08-01-2008, 04:36 PM

All out bulking builds the monsters look at Trey Brewer, its all well and good to say lets stay lean but chances are the words arent coming out of a super heavys mouth.

Warstu · 15-01-2008, 10:23 PM

I will keep this 12%bf rule after my first cutting phase

wogihao · 05-03-2008, 11:57 AM

If you want to make it out of the middleweights you need to do some serious ofseasion bulking. True a string vest isnt a option in that phase but then are you training to impress the women (or men) or doing it to compete its a big change in perspective.

Im not saying go crazy but its unrealistic to make good gains in the ofseasion on a low bodyfat after a certain point.

Your going to have the odd freak now and again but for the majority there still following the bulk/cut aproach that served generations of bodybuilders well in the past.