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Old 06-03-2006, 11:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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MRP & Protein Shakes

Can you use both?

I'm already eating as much as I can, appetite and time allowing, and having 3 or 4 protein shakes a day, and one creatine shake that I'd imagine tastes worse than pi$$! If I get a MRP, it will be in addition to what I'm already having, it wont be replacing anything.
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obvouisly the best thing is food but if you can't get real food for whatever reason then you can use a MRP but if you are already having 4 shakes and you want to add a MRP as well i think this is a little much..

what is your diet like?
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Old 06-03-2006, 12:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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to quote myself from another thread...

Right, i've noted done everything I've eaten for the last few days, rather than saying, "this is what i normally eat", this is what I did eat.

Thurs

8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab
10.00 Apple
10.30 Protein Shake
12.00 Tuna Sandwich
13.00 Protein
15.00 Past & Tuna
16.00 Train
17.30 PWO Protein & Creatine
18.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans
20.00 Protein
21.00 Banana
23.00 Pasta & Veg

Fri
8.00 Quaker Oats - vit C - Omega 3
10.30 Protein
11.30 Tuna sandwich
13.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans & creatine
15.00 Apple
16.00 Protein
16.30 Banana
17.30 Tuna salad
20.00 Protein
22.00 Pizza
23.00 Multi vit - vit B



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Old 06-03-2006, 03:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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should have a load of chicken fillets coming on the cheap that i can eat one a day of...
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Just stick your creatine in some fruitjuice or water...dont taste of anything...
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to quote myself from another thread...

Right, i've noted done everything I've eaten for the last few days, rather than saying, "this is what i normally eat", this is what I did eat.

Thurs

8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab
10.00 Apple
10.30 Protein Shake
12.00 Tuna Sandwich
13.00 Protein
15.00 Past & Tuna
16.00 Train
17.30 PWO Protein & Creatine
18.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans
20.00 Protein
21.00 Banana
23.00 Pasta & Veg

Fri
8.00 Quaker Oats - vit C - Omega 3
10.30 Protein
11.30 Tuna sandwich
13.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans & creatine
15.00 Apple
16.00 Protein
16.30 Banana
17.30 Tuna salad
20.00 Protein
22.00 Pizza
23.00 Multi vit - vit B



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cheers pscarb
Can you attach some values. Just saying protein is no help.
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Old 13-03-2006, 12:01 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Can you attach some values. Just saying protein is no help.

When I say protein, its 25g of bulkpowders' whey protein, mixed with water
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is that 25g of protein or a 25g scoop?

when you say Tuna is that a whole tin ?
but at first glance i would add some more varied protein sources to this diet along with some good fats...

8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab....you need to add some protein with this meal approx 40g would be good.
10.00 Apple...combine this with the protein shake at 10.30 and add 2g of EFA's
10.30 Protein Shake
12.00 Tuna Sandwich...this should be on wholemeal or granary bread but a better alternative would be a large jacket spud with Tuna and Light mayo or Wholemeal pasta and chicken
13.00 Protein personelly i would drop this and make sure you get the protein with your 12.00 meal
15.00 Past & Tuna....i would swap this for basmati rice as it should sit easeir on your stomach...again add some EFA's
16.00 Train
17.30 PWO Protein & Creatine...Add 50-60g of carbs to this drink
18.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans..a better choice would be either steak or chicken with Basmati rice or sweet spud
20.00 Protein move this to 21.00 and swap it for whole food like Chicken and Veg...
21.00 Banana...drop this
23.00 Pasta & Veg...drop this meal no need if you do need something then have a protein shake with Peanut Butter or EFA's

Without you telling us exact portions i cannot give any more detail...but i hope these tips help..
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8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab....you need to add some protein with this meal approx 40g would be good.40g from a shake- i cant eat more food, i struggle eating my oats :(


10.00 Apple...combine this with the protein shake at 10.30 and add 2g of EFA's source of EFA?
10.30 Protein Shake
12.00 Tuna Sandwich...this should be on wholemeal or granary bread but a better alternative would be a large jacket spud with Tuna and Light mayo or Wholemeal pasta and chicken ok - the sandwich is wholemeal
13.00 Protein personelly i would drop this and make sure you get the protein with your 12.00 meal ok - but thought it was best to have little amounts and more of it so your body gets a slow "trickle" of fuel.
15.00 Past & Tuna....i would swap this for basmati rice as it should sit easeir on your stomach...again add some EFA's ok
16.00 Train
17.30 PWO Protein & Creatine...Add 50-60g of carbs to this drink source of carbs?
18.30 3 eggs/tuna/beans..a better choice would be either steak or chicken with Basmati rice or sweet spud ok
20.00 Protein move this to 21.00 and swap it for whole food like Chicken and Veg...arrghh, more eating LOL! Have no appetite!
21.00 Banana...drop this done
23.00 Pasta & Veg...drop this meal no need if you do need something then have a protein shake with Peanut Butter or EFA's will cottage cheese be ok? someone said its good to have taht before bed

cheers for the advice pal, i really appreciate it!
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8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab....you need to add some protein with this meal approx 40g would be good.40g from a shake- i cant eat more food, i struggle eating my oats
Mix your protein drink in with your oats...

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12.00 Tuna Sandwich...this should be on wholemeal or granary bread but a better alternative would be a large jacket spud with Tuna and Light mayo or Wholemeal pasta and chicken ok - the sandwich is wholemeal
Make sure that you are eating a decent size sandwich fill it to the brim with salad...

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13.00 Protein personelly i would drop this and make sure you get the protein with your 12.00 meal ok - but thought it was best to have little amounts and more of it so your body gets a slow "trickle" of fuel.
Yes you are correct but this meal is 1hr after your lunch you need to give your food time to digest if anything i would move this meal to 13.00 instead of 12.00

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20.00 Protein move this to 21.00 and swap it for whole food like Chicken and Veg...arrghh, more eating LOL! Have no appetite!
yes i understand but whole food would be better to gain weight have you tried adding B12 to increase your appetite.

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23.00 Pasta & Veg...drop this meal no need if you do need something then have a protein shake with Peanut Butter or EFA's will cottage cheese be ok? someone said its good to have taht before bed
Yes cottage cheese is very good for this purpose as it is slow releasing.

a good source of EFA are fish oils you can get capsules from Holland and Barret at a very low price.peanut butter is a good source of good fats aswell as Mackeral and salmon..
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thanks again Pscarb.

B12? Not heard of it. What/how much is it?
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if its fish oils you want. goto www.zipvit.com you can get 360caps for about £7, same goes for vits aswell...

8.00 Quaker Oats - Vit C tab - Omeg3 tab....you need to add some protein with this meal approx 40g would be good.40g from a shake- i cant eat more food, i struggle eating my oats

I had this problem, buy a blender...100g of oats, milk, protein powder, some honey and some fruit and goes down so much easier...

Theres a thread somewhere of what people put in theres, i personally go for avacado (good fats).

Edit: Just checked http://www.zipvit.com/cgi-bin/vitcart.cgi?cstart#20 is £12 for 360 price has gone up. Or alternativly goto boots, there doing Omega 3,6 and9 250 caps for £8.
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