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Nev · 20-08-2005, 07:59 AM

god how crap am i at these wide grip pull ups . i just cant get my fat as.s up there . im not so bad at when working the side muscles on the back when u go from side to side on the bar . but im finding it really difficult to do these . is it just because my back isnt strong enough to pull my own body wait . i can manage a few but 3 sets of 8 no chance !!! my mate says these are great for the back and should nt miss them out . but i try what i can, i never give up . any advice on making these easier or advise .

samurai69 · 20-08-2005, 08:13 AM

Keep working on them, you will continue to build strength in them............you can build it from pull downs and bent rows aswell

**big** · 20-08-2005, 09:02 AM

How many can you actually do?

Have you tried doing negatives?

Nev · 20-08-2005, 09:44 AM

i can manage about 3-4 then i only get about half way up the colapse on the gym floor in a heep :rolleye11

shovel man · 20-08-2005, 10:00 AM

thats all i could do when i started mate now i strap a 40lb plate on for 3x10
is it your strengh thats lacking or your energy ?
try normal pullups not just wide grip
i always do them first in my back workout for a good stretch & warm up

Nev · 20-08-2005, 10:13 AM

not sure if its strenght or engery ,combo of both i think . and im getting heavier in weight aswell what does nt help me .

Danny boy · 20-08-2005, 10:30 AM

I could only do 5 when i first started squire i weigh 18.5 clem, and now do 3 sets of 8 with a 10 kg plate just build yourself up to them try for one or two more reps each time you train your back youll soon be there

shovel man · 20-08-2005, 01:12 PM

nevil25 the answere you are looking for is diet
strength you can build with energy for energy you need food
your pre workout meal has alot to do with how much energy & how well you train get a good mix of protien & carbs down you 1-2 hours before you train do your pull ups first in your workout when your strengh & energy are high but in IMO its your diet you need to look at
good luck with it

Ripped2shreds · 20-09-2005, 09:16 PM

Big has hit the nail on the head NEGATIVES get a bench and jump up and slowly lower your self down do this for 5-6 reps 2-3 sets once your muscles are used to the esentric contraction then you can start with the consentric...even if you just hang for a while and do 1 pull up every 20 seconds..it all helps

winger · 21-09-2005, 02:18 AM

If he really wants to do more he will.

Win if you can, loose if you must, but always always cheat!

Jock · 21-09-2005, 11:02 AM

You just have to stick at it mate, as long as your diet is good and you aren't overtraining then they will get easier. Patience is key with this exercise.

RAIKEY · 21-09-2005, 11:21 AM

just as everyone else has said stick at it...also, use lifting straps to give you the confidence your not gonna end up in a heap on the floor.

a technique i used when i was too heavy for my strength is as follows i think its one of Larry Scotts little gems..

1. strap yourself to the bar
2. hang loosely and let your body weight stretch you out.
3. now get your chest as high as you can to the bar but......
4. WITHOUT bending your elbows!!
5. you should feel all the effort in the full length of your lats !

i see it as a kind of reverse shrug in a way , you get only little movement (probly 6-10 inches) but you know its your back and only your back that got you there!!
cos dont forget as soon as your elbows bend, a good percentage of the lift is being helped by the biceps

i do these usually at the end of my session when lats and arms are done for, and i get a lovely tight feeling in , espesially the lower part of the lats and it feels GReeeat!!

oh got a bit carried away there sorry!

**hackskii** · 21-09-2005, 12:25 PM

Great advice from above.

If you can do 3 you will be able to do 10 in no time or even more.

Do your pullups first as you want those to progress the most.

This old guy about 20 years ago told me a little trick.
He said to instead of thinking to pull your self up to the bar you should think to push your elbos down.
Helped me anyway.

Could be a coordination thing too.

RAIKEY · 21-09-2005, 12:51 PM

nice one Scott!!
i do the same with seated calf raises ...
i imagine trying to push my toes through the floor...rather than lift the wieght
sometimes a different mental apraoch really does help dunnit??

Magic Torch · 21-09-2005, 12:53 PM

I wouldn't worry nevil, if you can do 3 or 4 pull ups once a week, keep trying, then in a month you might get 5 or 6 out, so this time next year you should be able to manage 3x8? Also why not take as many sets as you can to get to 10? Thats how I started doing them and it helped me.

Pull up's are a bloody good excercise tho!

20-08-2005, 07:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nev Looking Freaky Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: u.k Posts: 512	pull ups god how crap am i at these wide grip pull ups . i just cant get my fat as.s up there . im not so bad at when working the side muscles on the back when u go from side to side on the bar . but im finding it really difficult to do these . is it just because my back isnt strong enough to pull my own body wait . i can manage a few but 3 sets of 8 no chance !!! my mate says these are great for the back and should nt miss them out . but i try what i can, i never give up . any advice on making these easier or advise . __________________ god said " come forth and thee shall recive eternal life " i came 5th and won a toaster Last edited by Nev; 20-08-2005 at 09:45 AM.

20-08-2005, 09:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
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20-08-2005, 09:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nev Looking Freaky Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: u.k Posts: 512	i can manage about 3-4 then i only get about half way up the colapse on the gym floor in a heep :rolleye11 __________________ god said " come forth and thee shall recive eternal life " i came 5th and won a toaster

20-08-2005, 10:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nev Looking Freaky Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: u.k Posts: 512	not sure if its strenght or engery ,combo of both i think . and im getting heavier in weight aswell what does nt help me . __________________ god said " come forth and thee shall recive eternal life " i came 5th and won a toaster

20-08-2005, 10:30 AM	#7 (permalink)
Danny boy Newbie Trainer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 70	I could only do 5 when i first started squire i weigh 18.5 clem, and now do 3 sets of 8 with a 10 kg plate just build yourself up to them try for one or two more reps each time you train your back youll soon be there __________________ ONE OF THE GREATEST DISCOVERIES A MAN MAKES, ONE OF HIS GREAT SUPRISES, IS TO FIND HE CAN DO WHAT HE WAS AFRAID HE COULDN'T DO :lift:

20-08-2005, 08:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
samurai69 Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Mid Portugal - by the sea Posts: 3,076	Keep working on them, you will continue to build strength in them............you can build it from pull downs and bent rows aswell

20-08-2005, 10:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
shovel man Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 666	thats all i could do when i started mate now i strap a 40lb plate on for 3x10 is it your strengh thats lacking or your energy ? try normal pullups not just wide grip i always do them first in my back workout for a good stretch & warm up

20-08-2005, 01:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
shovel man Looking Freaky Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 666	nevil25 the answere you are looking for is diet strength you can build with energy for energy you need food your pre workout meal has alot to do with how much energy & how well you train get a good mix of protien & carbs down you 1-2 hours before you train do your pull ups first in your workout when your strengh & energy are high but in IMO its your diet you need to look at good luck with it

20-09-2005, 09:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ripped2shreds Newbie Trainer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 20	Big has hit the nail on the head NEGATIVES get a bench and jump up and slowly lower your self down do this for 5-6 reps 2-3 sets once your muscles are used to the esentric contraction then you can start with the consentric...even if you just hang for a while and do 1 pull up every 20 seconds..it all helps

21-09-2005, 02:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,328 Blog Entries: 1	If he really wants to do more he will. Win if you can, loose if you must, but always always cheat! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by winger; 21-09-2005 at 02:20 AM.

21-09-2005, 11:02 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jock LEAGUE LEGEND! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK Posts: 3,069	You just have to stick at it mate, as long as your diet is good and you aren't overtraining then they will get easier. Patience is key with this exercise. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-09-2005, 11:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
RAIKEY Please do not feed the Raikey, it may bite.!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deepest, Darkest , Yorkcestershire,...Ayup See thee!! Posts: 3,378	just as everyone else has said stick at it...also, use lifting straps to give you the confidence your not gonna end up in a heap on the floor. a technique i used when i was too heavy for my strength is as follows i think its one of Larry Scotts little gems.. 1. strap yourself to the bar 2. hang loosely and let your body weight stretch you out. 3. now get your chest as high as you can to the bar but...... 4. WITHOUT bending your elbows!! 5. you should feel all the effort in the full length of your lats ! i see it as a kind of reverse shrug in a way , you get only little movement (probly 6-10 inches) but you know its your back and only your back that got you there!! cos dont forget as soon as your elbows bend, a good percentage of the lift is being helped by the biceps i do these usually at the end of my session when lats and arms are done for, and i get a lovely tight feeling in , espesially the lower part of the lats and it feels GReeeat!! oh got a bit carried away there sorry! __________________ I used to have a large gay following.......but i hid behind some cars and lost him!!

21-09-2005, 12:25 PM	#13 (permalink)
hackskii UK-Muscle Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 23,694	Great advice from above. If you can do 3 you will be able to do 10 in no time or even more. Do your pullups first as you want those to progress the most. This old guy about 20 years ago told me a little trick. He said to instead of thinking to pull your self up to the bar you should think to push your elbos down. Helped me anyway. Could be a coordination thing too. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

21-09-2005, 12:51 PM	#14 (permalink)
RAIKEY Please do not feed the Raikey, it may bite.!! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deepest, Darkest , Yorkcestershire,...Ayup See thee!! Posts: 3,378	nice one Scott!! i do the same with seated calf raises ... i imagine trying to push my toes through the floor...rather than lift the wieght sometimes a different mental apraoch really does help dunnit?? __________________ I used to have a large gay following.......but i hid behind some cars and lost him!!

21-09-2005, 12:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
Magic Torch UK-M Swimsuit model Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 5,175 Blog Entries: 5	I wouldn't worry nevil, if you can do 3 or 4 pull ups once a week, keep trying, then in a month you might get 5 or 6 out, so this time next year you should be able to manage 3x8? Also why not take as many sets as you can to get to 10? Thats how I started doing them and it helped me. Pull up's are a bloody good excercise tho! __________________ intentionally blank