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Cheater2K · 23-12-2003, 09:03 AM

Looks like everything alright here then

Calm down people, hehe, i know its christmas and all them drinks are dissapearing somwhere

BSF James · 23-12-2003, 05:53 PM

I've been reading the blurb on hst at the site that was posted. I cant say that its something that I would really want to try. Training the whole body in one workout has never been something that I've thought a good idea. You have to push blood all around the body. I much prefer sticking to 1-3 muscle groups and getting a good pump. Whilst I've never been a huge fan of HIT, I can see the science behind that, but HST - I just dont see it. Only 2 sets per bodypart seems pointless to me.

Anyone heard of EDT - Escalating Density Training? There was an article in musclemag a few months ago about it. I cant remember the exact details, but I think you pick two exercises for a bodypart and perform them alternatively for 20 mins - the goal being to do as many reps/sets of each as you can in the 20 mins, and to keep beating your previous workouts. That sounded an interesting one to try.

winger · 23-12-2003, 06:06 PM

Nice to see your view Silentbob. I like your insight on training. You stay up on current events and I like that. The whole idea of the forum is to brainstorm. Allot of minds working together.
I have actually tried this myself for a few months. I liked it. Hackskii and I train on our lunch break and only have 17 minutes. So I always look for ways to train around my 17 minute lunch. Here is what I did. This is only the chest and back part.

Monday and thursday chest and back.
Monday I did bench and pullups
Thursday I did incline and low rows or bent rows. The thing I did like about this routine is I was strong during the whole workout. Unlike doing bench and then when it comes to incline I am a bit fatigued already. Unless you arent pushing to failure.
Another thing I kinda liked is if you mis a day it really isn't a big deal cause you kinda have your body covered from your last workout. Like I have said over and over, keep the body guessing and change will do a body good. I might try it in about a month.

BSF James · 23-12-2003, 06:19 PM

Winger,

Funny enough, I have 20 mins now before I close my gym for Christmas and I think I'm gonna squeeze in a quick back workout - I might do the EDT thing with some rows and pulldowns. I'll probably end up closing late and throwing in some bicep work too though!

**hackskii** · 23-12-2003, 08:40 PM

I think I am going to go back to the old way that winger mentioned above. This seems to help my strength some and each muscle group can be hit with alot of intensity.

winger · 23-12-2003, 11:14 PM

I love those fast hard intense workouts. On back day I used to superset two excercises and when those were done I would take two more and just rip with no rest. You would almost be winded when you got done. I also like going to strange gyms and working out. Don't know why, I just would get the best workouts in foreign gyms. My wife used to travel allot and I must of been to 20, 24 hour fitnesses.
Silentbob you are the luckiest. I wish I had my own gym. I have always wanted to have one. Its funny, get a good job and throw away what you really want to do. When I was young I used to work at a gym and it seemed like I was the designated spotter. Now that part sucked. But it sure was fun.

BSF James · 28-12-2003, 02:33 PM

Winger, I'm actually in the process of selling my gym. It is great having your own gym, but you can have too much of a good thing. When you spend 60 odd hours a week in a gym, working out starts to become less fun. When you only get to go to the gym for an hour a day like I used to, you look forward to it a lot more. That's how I've started to feel about it anyway although I know plenty of guys who've owned/worked in gyms for years on end and loved every minute. I guess I'm a bit easily bored. Before owning this place, I never trained at one gym for more than about six months straight - I always enjoyed changing gyms and using new equipment.

We're selling up because my fiancee and I had a son a few months ago and I'd like to be able to spend more time at home with him. Gyms are open long hours (most of which I work myself) and with few days off, so it'll be nice to work 'normal' hours. Also, our gym is in the south of England, and we'd like to move back up north to where we used to live. We'll still be running our supplement store though (and will have significantly more cash to throw behind it!). One of our members of staff is buying the gym from us (so long as everything all goes through), so we'll always be able to go back and visit.

winger · 28-12-2003, 03:55 PM

Congratulations on your added family member. That is so cool. At least you got to do what you wanted to do. Heck who knows you might even make more money and work less hours. Its all about the advertising. Maybe your supplement store might take off. Good luck and nice to hear from ya as always. Happy New Year.

robin_3_16 · 28-12-2003, 09:53 PM

the guy who owns my gym said to me, when u go to a buolders house look around, you won't see a great amount of building work done because when he comes home he doesn't want to build more, then he said its the same owning a gym, 60 hours a week there put u off training abit!

BSF James · 29-12-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by winger
Congratulations on your added family member. That is so cool. At least you got to do what you wanted to do. Heck who knows you might even make more money and work less hours. Its all about the advertising. Maybe your supplement store might take off. Good luck and nice to hear from ya as always. Happy New Year.

Thanks Winger, I'm really enjoying being a Dad. It's a tough decision to sell the gym, and it is something I always really wanted to do, but as you said, at least I've had the chance to do it. The supplement store is doing really well, and with some of the cash from the sale of the gym to use for advertising, I am hoping that it will soon make us more profit than the gym does anyway. Happy new year to you too!

BSF James · 29-12-2003, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by robin_3_16
the guy who owns my gym said to me, when u go to a buolders house look around, you won't see a great amount of building work done because when he comes home he doesn't want to build more, then he said its the same owning a gym, 60 hours a week there put u off training abit!

Spot on there mate. I mean, I love KFC, but if I worked in a KFC I'd probably very soon get sick of the sight of it (as well as getting really fat!). I can't say that I'm sick of training, or even particularly bored of it - I just dont look forward to it as much as I used to. I used to look forward to going to the gym all day, whereas now, I'm already there regardless of if I'm training or not.

**robdog** · 29-12-2003, 04:54 PM

i think this applies to most things in life. motivation is one of the hardest things to keep imo

**hackskii** · 29-12-2003, 06:56 PM

I dont think so. For me it is about setting a time and doing it. If I can just make it to the gym then I got it licked.
I also do a reward thing during the workout. Legs I hate the most and find any excuse not to work them (like most guys) but I will do a set and pick a weight that I can do like 12 times and say to myself that if I get lets say 14 (failure) with that weight I can go home.
Sounds funny but I never end up going home after that and usually do either another set or exercise and play the same game in my head.
Kooky hyh?

If I dont want to go to the gym then I tell myself that I can just do a couple of sets of my favorite exercise and go home. Bam, I end up doing alot of stuff that I normally dont do, like abs...OOPS!

Harry · 30-12-2003, 12:42 AM

Silentbob congratulations on fatherhood you can't beat it. Anyway what's all this about Colchester being South of England, everytime I go that far up I get a nose bleed. LOL. Hope the sale goes well.

**robdog** · 30-12-2003, 02:51 PM

congrats on the kids mate

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23-12-2003, 05:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
BSF James BodyShapers Fitness MD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 1,254	I've been reading the blurb on hst at the site that was posted. I cant say that its something that I would really want to try. Training the whole body in one workout has never been something that I've thought a good idea. You have to push blood all around the body. I much prefer sticking to 1-3 muscle groups and getting a good pump. Whilst I've never been a huge fan of HIT, I can see the science behind that, but HST - I just dont see it. Only 2 sets per bodypart seems pointless to me. Anyone heard of EDT - Escalating Density Training? There was an article in musclemag a few months ago about it. I cant remember the exact details, but I think you pick two exercises for a bodypart and perform them alternatively for 20 mins - the goal being to do as many reps/sets of each as you can in the 20 mins, and to keep beating your previous workouts. That sounded an interesting one to try. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. -Now with FREE shipping available on all UK mainland orders! 5% off your first order - use discount code ukm6. The #1 choice for To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. with rapid, reliable service. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - research backed sports nutrition.

23-12-2003, 06:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	Nice to see your view Silentbob. I like your insight on training. You stay up on current events and I like that. The whole idea of the forum is to brainstorm. Allot of minds working together. I have actually tried this myself for a few months. I liked it. Hackskii and I train on our lunch break and only have 17 minutes. So I always look for ways to train around my 17 minute lunch. Here is what I did. This is only the chest and back part. Monday and thursday chest and back. Monday I did bench and pullups Thursday I did incline and low rows or bent rows. The thing I did like about this routine is I was strong during the whole workout. Unlike doing bench and then when it comes to incline I am a bit fatigued already. Unless you arent pushing to failure. Another thing I kinda liked is if you mis a day it really isn't a big deal cause you kinda have your body covered from your last workout. Like I have said over and over, keep the body guessing and change will do a body good. I might try it in about a month. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-12-2003, 06:19 PM	#19 (permalink)
BSF James BodyShapers Fitness MD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 1,254	Winger, Funny enough, I have 20 mins now before I close my gym for Christmas and I think I'm gonna squeeze in a quick back workout - I might do the EDT thing with some rows and pulldowns. I'll probably end up closing late and throwing in some bicep work too though! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. -Now with FREE shipping available on all UK mainland orders! 5% off your first order - use discount code ukm6. The #1 choice for To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. with rapid, reliable service. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - research backed sports nutrition.

23-12-2003, 08:40 PM	#20 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	I think I am going to go back to the old way that winger mentioned above. This seems to help my strength some and each muscle group can be hit with alot of intensity. __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-12-2003, 11:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	I love those fast hard intense workouts. On back day I used to superset two excercises and when those were done I would take two more and just rip with no rest. You would almost be winded when you got done. I also like going to strange gyms and working out. Don't know why, I just would get the best workouts in foreign gyms. My wife used to travel allot and I must of been to 20, 24 hour fitnesses. Silentbob you are the luckiest. I wish I had my own gym. I have always wanted to have one. Its funny, get a good job and throw away what you really want to do. When I was young I used to work at a gym and it seemed like I was the designated spotter. Now that part sucked. But it sure was fun. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by winger; 23-12-2003 at 11:17 PM.

28-12-2003, 02:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
BSF James BodyShapers Fitness MD Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Telford Posts: 1,254	Winger, I'm actually in the process of selling my gym. It is great having your own gym, but you can have too much of a good thing. When you spend 60 odd hours a week in a gym, working out starts to become less fun. When you only get to go to the gym for an hour a day like I used to, you look forward to it a lot more. That's how I've started to feel about it anyway although I know plenty of guys who've owned/worked in gyms for years on end and loved every minute. I guess I'm a bit easily bored. Before owning this place, I never trained at one gym for more than about six months straight - I always enjoyed changing gyms and using new equipment. We're selling up because my fiancee and I had a son a few months ago and I'd like to be able to spend more time at home with him. Gyms are open long hours (most of which I work myself) and with few days off, so it'll be nice to work 'normal' hours. Also, our gym is in the south of England, and we'd like to move back up north to where we used to live. We'll still be running our supplement store though (and will have significantly more cash to throw behind it!). One of our members of staff is buying the gym from us (so long as everything all goes through), so we'll always be able to go back and visit. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. -Now with FREE shipping available on all UK mainland orders! 5% off your first order - use discount code ukm6. The #1 choice for To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. with rapid, reliable service. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - research backed sports nutrition.

28-12-2003, 03:55 PM	#23 (permalink)
winger UK-Muscle Male Animal Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 10,215 Blog Entries: 1	Congratulations on your added family member. That is so cool. At least you got to do what you wanted to do. Heck who knows you might even make more money and work less hours. Its all about the advertising. Maybe your supplement store might take off. Good luck and nice to hear from ya as always. Happy New Year. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

28-12-2003, 09:53 PM	#24 (permalink)
robin_3_16 Getting HUGE! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 1,461	the guy who owns my gym said to me, when u go to a buolders house look around, you won't see a great amount of building work done because when he comes home he doesn't want to build more, then he said its the same owning a gym, 60 hours a week there put u off training abit! __________________ Robin

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29-12-2003, 06:56 PM	#28 (permalink)
hackskii Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Sunny Southern California U.S.A. Posts: 22,649	I dont think so. For me it is about setting a time and doing it. If I can just make it to the gym then I got it licked. I also do a reward thing during the workout. Legs I hate the most and find any excuse not to work them (like most guys) but I will do a set and pick a weight that I can do like 12 times and say to myself that if I get lets say 14 (failure) with that weight I can go home. Sounds funny but I never end up going home after that and usually do either another set or exercise and play the same game in my head. Kooky hyh? If I dont want to go to the gym then I tell myself that I can just do a couple of sets of my favorite exercise and go home. Bam, I end up doing alot of stuff that I normally dont do, like abs...OOPS! __________________ "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away." - George Carlin Scott To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 0 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Last edited by hackskii; 29-12-2003 at 06:58 PM.

30-12-2003, 12:42 AM	#29 (permalink)
Harry EFBB Winner Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,076	Silentbob congratulations on fatherhood you can't beat it. Anyway what's all this about Colchester being South of England, everytime I go that far up I get a nose bleed. LOL. Hope the sale goes well.

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