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Old 26-01-2005, 03:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Chest problem.... Unfixable?

I have been lifting seriously and eating properly for the past 8 months after coming out of a serious eating disorder.

Anyhow, I have made fantastic gains in these 8 months but these gains have given me an asthetic problem. Now that I have some mass on my chest I can see that one of my pecs is a completely different shape to the other.

My left pec has a full "square" shape. It goes from the bottom of my neck down to my sternum with a straight line in the middle. My right pec however goes in a straight line down but about half way is goes diagonally inward.

Here are a couple of pics to show you what I mean....

This is a "normal chest"



and this is how mine looks



There seem to be no muscle fibres in this gap and I can feel my sternum (bone) there.

When I first noticed this I hoped that as I added mass to my chest it would fill out in this area. However it just become more noticable as my chest got bigger.

I understand that this is genetics, And in all likelyhood there is nothing I can do about this. I will just have to accept that there is no way to "fill" this gap.

However I wondered if you guys have any ideas on how I could minimise the irregularity and make it more asthetically appealing?

Has anyone had similar issues and gotten around it in some way? Or did it just dissapear or look better when you added a lot more mass?

I wonder if perhaps there are fibres there but they are not getting recruited in some way, maybe they will begin to grow as my chest gets bigger still. I understand that there is no such thing as an "inner chest" so should I just learn to live with it?

Any advice you could give me would be fantastic.

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Old 26-01-2005, 03:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think my older brother had that but not as bad. Mate, if it is genetic, there is nothing you can do for that. You cant put muscle on where there is none. :( I think it is more common than you think.
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Old 26-01-2005, 03:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think my older brother had that but not as bad. Mate, if it is genetic, there is nothing you can do for that. You cant put muscle on where there is none. :( I think it is more common than you think.
Yeah I was afraid of that... It's just difficult to determine wether it is indeed genetic and I actually have no muscle in that gap or wether there "are" fibres there but for some reason are just not reacting to stimulation yet.

I remember when I first started training I could feel bone all accross my upper chest. I could feel no muscle whatsoever. Then as the months progressed and I trained and ate correctly sure enough the muscle just sort of popped out of nowhere. I can now feel a good inch of muscle where I could feel only bone before.

I wonder if this has anything to do with my guitar playing. I started to learn classical guitar at the age of seven. I would play all day every-day and achieved grade 8 (the highest you can go) by the age of about 13. When playing guitar as a right handed person you constantly have to support your raised left arm with its corrosponding pectoral muscle. Perhaps as I went through puberty this lead to more muscle fibres develpoing on that side?

I don't know just a theory. It's a shame because in all other respects I have very good genetics. I do alot of modelling (hence my eating disorded a couple of years back) and this will really hinder my work If I was decide to move into fitness modelling at some point.
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mate same here.

instead of the lower inner quadrant of the right pec, ive got the upper inner. more mass has made it less noticable. but fook, i dunno how much more mass i can get on within reason.
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Old 26-01-2005, 06:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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mate same here.

instead of the lower inner quadrant of the right pec, ive got the upper inner. more mass has made it less noticable. but fook, i dunno how much more mass i can get on within reason.
Ah at least i'm not alone then. I guess all I can do is what you have done and continue to work my chest with all i've got and hope that as it gets thicker the imperfections become less noticable. I'm just worried they will become more defined the more I grow.
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Old 27-01-2005, 09:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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ok, im unable to do this now(injury, cant press down). but this is what i did to thicken my chest like mad and quickly too!!!

right superset theory. basicaly you alternate 2 or more exercises in quick succesion, so you go from exercise 1 immediately to exercise 2, then have a minutes rest then repeat.

so heres the moves.... first is dips. find a dip bar, lean forward on the bar and your feet poke out behind you. this is ok, but then move your feet forward so they are in direct line below your eyes. this accentuates the chest alot more.

second move is incline dumbell press. if you have an adjustable bench, set it that is is about 30 degrees. any higher and your delts are taking the strain not your chest. then go from there with good strict form

the regime is 8 sets of 8. so 8 dips, straight to 8 press's then rest and repeat another 7 times. the weight you use wont be as high as you think!!

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Old 27-01-2005, 10:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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ok, im unable to do this now(injury, cant press down). but this is what i did to thicken my chest like mad and quickly too!!!

right superset theory. basicaly you alternate 2 or more exercises in quick succesion, so you go from exercise 1 immediately to exercise 2, then have a minutes rest then repeat.

so heres the moves.... first is dips. find a dip bar, lean forward on the bar and your feet poke out behind you. this is ok, but then move your feet forward so they are in direct line below your eyes. this accentuates the chest alot more.

second move is incline dumbell press. if you have an adjustable bench, set it that is is about 30 degrees. any higher and your delts are taking the strain not your chest. then go from there with good strict form

the regime is 8 sets of 8. so 8 dips, straight to 8 press's then rest and repeat another 7 times. the weight you use wont be as high as you think!!

good luck and see if it works
That sounds awesome Big pete... Thanks alot mate! Super-setting is something I haven't tried yet. I'll do exactly as you suggested next week.

One question though, is that all I should do or should I add in any other chest excersises Like flat bench, DB flyes etc afterwards? I would guess since I am doing 8 sets of each I wouldnt need any others right?

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That sounds awesome Big pete... Thanks alot mate! Super-setting is something I haven't tried yet. I'll do exactly as you suggested next week.

One question though, is that all I should do or should I add in any other chest excersises Like flat bench, DB flyes etc afterwards? I would guess since I am doing 8 sets of each I wouldnt need any others right?

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i wouldnt do anything myself. but upto you
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Scot Stiener has uneven pecs, but hes so big you don't notice it, I think this will apply to you too.
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I wonder if this has anything to do with my guitar playing. I started to learn classical guitar at the age of seven. I would play all day every-day and achieved grade 8 (the highest you can go) by the age of about 13. When playing guitar as a right handed person you constantly have to support your raised left arm with its corrosponding pectoral muscle. Perhaps as I went through puberty this lead to more muscle fibres develpoing on that side?[quote]

Almost certainly no. Your guitar playing would have had no impact on the number of fibres as that is pre-determined at birth.

I am wondering if it isn't the result of injury?

Worst comes to the worst, cosmetic surgery could fix this possibly so all won't be lost if training the pec doesn't help.

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As SD says, it's not the gituar, I play gituar and have normal pectoral shape.
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Thanks guys, I was just wondering if the guitar playing could have had an impact since I started so young and so intensly. I was playing upto 8 hours a day since I was seven!

As you have all pointed out it isn't a major issue. I hope as I get bigger it will become less noticable. I'll let you all know how I get on in the coming months.

Thanks for all your help guys
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How many times a week do you work chest now?
Once a week at the moment.

I work chest and triceps together as chest excersises seem to hit my triceps pretty hard. Heres an idea of my normal chest workout.

Flat bench 3x8
Incline Bench 3x8
Dumbell Flyes 3x8

I have been mostly concerned with adding weight each workout and this seems to have been working nicely for me. Should I start hitting my chest a bit harder or maybe more often than once a week?

Anyway... I think I might give the routine that Big Pete suggested a try. If I can get a bit more mass on my pecs then I should have a better idea of how its going to look as they develop further.

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